(( Ancient |AI| ))
Welcome to breaking the Transsaurus cast. This is episode seven, ancient AI. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to our seventh episode of breaking the trance source cast. Wow.
Speaker 1:So much is going on right now. I mean, we could have said that a few months ago, a year ago, a few years ago, but it really feels like there's so muchness has accelerated and for so many people. And I see it, in a way in my own personal experience, there's so many factors, you know, the, the, the handing over of the new guard, in American politics is a big part of it and all the things that are happening there, but also all around the world, what's going on, in the geopolitical scene and and, the the ever increasing ubiquitousness of of AI and all of that technology and and the acceleration there. And, I know that I personally have been feeling a sense of unease, increasing just because of all of these factors and everything moving so fast and the news cycle just being like a fire hose. Just one thing that takes three minutes now used to absorb a whole week, you know, of our attention, and we're just we're we're just under such an incredible bombardment of of things.
Speaker 1:And I've and I've observed a lot of people feeling also anxiety ridden, depressed, worried, frustrated, angry, all kinds of, emotions that have also increased, drastically just recently, I feel and I see. And I think it's safe to say that that is true. And, you know, a lot of it I think a lot of the the the themes that we've been picking up in terms of breaking the trance and some of the the themes, is anything sacred, and is this a mission impossible, and where are the people? And any number of the the the previous topics we have, they're all they're all focused under this theme of breaking the trance. And what what does that mean?
Speaker 1:What is breaking the trance? And what we're what we've been so bold as to declare just that any of our attempts to heal the human situation, and to to, come to be become a true we the people the world over. And we are in a global globalized age. It's a whole new world that we're living in now, and I think we're having a hard time catching up with that. But that we're saying boldly, until we break the trance, our efforts are, squandered and, futile, in many ways.
Speaker 1:It's not to say that there isn't, importance to all the vast forms of raising awareness and activism and things that are going on, and I I encourage that and and salute those of you who are with all of your passion, and and goodwill for humanity and for for the the planet. I applaud you for for for being so, selfless in your service to making things better. And and so what what we want and what I want is for your efforts to be liberated to on a whole new level by way of saying, as we said in another one of the episodes, pause, stop, step back here. Let's take a moment here, to to to pull the VR goggles as it were off to to get out of the game in the way of being just immersed and engaged in it. And in the in those VR goggles, in in in the in the, being entranced by all of the phenomena that's taking place and bombarding us and overwhelming us, to take that moment to pause and say, woah.
Speaker 1:Woah. Woah. There's something deeper going on here. And within the the VR, I'm using VR as a as an analogy right now, but it really is like a virtual reality as opposed to real reality, source reality, the promised land. That's the promised land that we're all after.
Speaker 1:In the VR space, we are, sucked into a version of ourselves, a version of our community, a version of the world, a version of everything that's happening that is by its nature part of the problem. That is by its nature a part of the trance. And, in that space, we're so good. We're so so practiced at pointing. That's the problem.
Speaker 1:Whatever. Pick you pick your pick your problem. Pick your favorite issue of the day or issues of the day or people that are issues of the day or or parties, left or right or you have at it. There were all of the things that you wanna say is the problem. That's the problem.
Speaker 1:That's they're the problem. That's and and this is exactly in a way if we were to say that the trance has a sort of a will to sustain its reign in the background, you know, the last thing it wants is for us to see that and what it really loves is for us to be all just sucked into the drama and battling it out in and duking it out in that place. And, and I and and that's why I just love, love, love you know, I do this in my sessions all the time. I I bring in the analogy of the movie, Edge of Tomorrow, with Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt. Great, great movie, but for its metaphorical value of this alien invasion.
Speaker 1:So the spoiler alert, guys, if you don't wanna be, have a spoiler. I'm I'm sorry about that. But, long story short, the aliens that have invaded planet Earth want us to fight them until we exhaust ourselves to death. That's how we lose is by staying in the battle with the aliens because they can just keep regenerating. In the analogy here, the aliens on the battlefield are all of these issues, all of these silo issues that are that we're fighting over here.
Speaker 1:These are all the aliens as it were. But in the movie, they're they figure out that there's there's a main brain underneath. It happens to be in this movie under the Louvre in France. The main brain lives under there in hiding and is the one that's able to regenerate all of the aliens ad infinitum, while we wear ourselves out and kill ourselves off, in the battle. So the reason I love that is, you know, breaking the trance is akin to going after that main brain.
Speaker 1:And and and that's kind of, like, one of our big this is step back from all of the intramural fighting. There's a the infighting between not just within parties or or wings of of our political world and left and right and all those things. Step back. Woah. They're They're all on the same team.
Speaker 1:It's all part of the same it's all part of the same trans. It's all part of exactly where we need where we need to break out of, as as as, seductive as it is to take the high ground and the righteous ground, and I'm gonna fight the bad guys and that whole thing. Pause. This this one I wanted to say, and we're just gonna go for it, you know, sort of wing it and see where this takes us. But that's kind of the the main thing that's on the on my mind and our minds in our conversations leading up to this.
Speaker 1:What does it take for humanity as a whole to snap out of that that seductive battle and battles and go, wait a second. There's a much deeper there's a much deeper nemesis in all of us operating in the in the shadows of our own consciousness, in the background of our minds. And and how do we call that out, which was was what we've been doing this these six episodes, you know, and and many other, offerings that we've both done together and individually calling out this you know, if it's the single bracket space, that red zone down there at the bottom of the the pad, it's that pulling it out from behind the field of vision into the field of vision. That's breaking the trance. That's that's going after the main brain under the Louvre in each of us.
Speaker 1:So we can all be true activists, empowered activists, by way of kicking this deep, deep addiction, this malware that's implanted in us, that's holding us captive, and wants us to be in the engaged in the VR to, oh, let's get those goggles off. Because that's the AI that that no one's talking about. That's the age old AI that is immemorial. And it goes way back to the beginnings of language and consciousness and thought, and and and now we're seeing it accelerated and being embodied in the mechanics and the computers and the Internet and all the things that we have that we now call AI. Where did it start?
Speaker 1:Well, that's that's what that's what we've been calling out. So, that's me, punting the ball to you, pups. If you wanna, take that and run. Let's see where we go with this.
Speaker 2:That's very well done, Noth. And I wanna join you in just saying hi to all our wonderful human family across the planet. This is really addressed to our the the planetary human family, all of us. We're in this together in a global space. This is a global space.
Speaker 2:Global here means the source entering the source of all narratives, all scriptures, all world views, all of our great first responders of the ages. Were attempting to open up the space, and we didn't have the markers to indicate before even though they were struggling to see a difference between a derivative code software of the mind. It's so hard. It allows us to see. It makes us powerful to have information and narratives and disciplines and arts and sciences and human emotions and human relations and politics and governments and all that here.
Speaker 2:Under this way, this is a powerful, empowering in this respect. But the nature of the software has malware as a great teacher is obscene, and that's what this line it it turns to this cuts the software with deeper access to reality, to being on the ground floor. And so this, finally getting it in notational markers for when we were in this language, this software, where this world, this form of reality, this, as you say, the virtual reality as you call it, not the AI. We wouldn't wanna call it AI because we think AI is just a sub text of the cyber logical, computer space is AI, but that's the derivative from this. And so we've been living in an AI space.
Speaker 2:Why is AI? Right? Artificial intelligence because there's a deeper rational intelligence organic when we come into the zone to mind our minding, which means to step back. We're minding here, and we're good at the whole human family. You're right.
Speaker 2:But this malware here so, you know, in terms of Moses, Jesus, Buddha, all these great names, you know, what are they doing? They're saying there's an urgent issue facing the human genome, the human family. It's that we are suffering because we're fragmented and shredded and severed from source. This is the main source of the disorders of being in the subtext here in AI. It's artificial because we decide our wills decide what makes sense, what doesn't make sense, what do I believe in, what do I take to be true, what what is my
Speaker 1:truth. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Evolve? Yeah. It's our will. That that's important. So this is a malpractice of the will.
Speaker 2:It's a will will virus because that's what makes us interpret which which story. Am I gonna say Jesus is my lord or I'm of Mosaic's persuasion or Allah is the truth or Buddha or science, whatever it is? That's my will. Or I hold these truths to be self evident. No.
Speaker 2:This truth holds us to be self evident. This is a lie of reason. This is the rational space. So as we said in the private, you did very well not in re summing up sort of the main themes in breaking the trends. And what you're saying is this is like the in the analogic to the movie, this is the brain, the the software hidden under the surface Mhmm.
Speaker 2:That's running the show across the planet and for millennia. And our computer cyber logic, which is one derivative of that, you know, and and and the cyber sapiens here, you know, this is preventing us from being fully human, mature adults in the room. Mhmm. Adult rational beings. Right?
Speaker 2:And so what we're doing is saying until folks, we can keep them brilliant. We're brilliant and good people. We're not putting people down. We're we're we're people. But people here are not persons.
Speaker 2:They're not rational, awakened, critical thinkers. Free. Free. This is free range. This is freedom.
Speaker 2:This is my so when someone like Marty says, we got our free essential mental slavery. Right? We're still colonized. If our minds are captured by an unconscious software at the reptilian level of the brain functioning so deep we can't see it. But it's running the show, and we don't know it.
Speaker 2:And our great genius men and women of the ages are first responders to what's first, which is infinite. The infinite source is always calling. It's the light of logos. Use that word for whatever name you wanna say. This is where we become adult humans, adult sapiens.
Speaker 2:Homo sapiens are still adolescent, and we've got to mature to adult logosapiens, not Lego sapiens. So if we if we pre process our lives and our world and our love life and our politics and our human relations and our arts and sciences within without being aware that we're laboring under a software that is malware, and it's got the human family captive. And a great teachers and scriptures are seeking to call it out and get us to somehow end up over here. Mhmm. And until we are persons if you take the example from USA, and we're not American centric.
Speaker 2:Right? We were using this great lab that the founders in that declaration were saying, what's it? What's the greatest call of the logos to all humans across the planet, especially the colonies, is that whatever is holding us captive and eclipsing our dignity and freedom and independence, we must separate. They're echoing all the great keys, detachment, separation, deconstruction, letting it go, stepping back, whatever, right, releasement, all the metaphors of making this crossing. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And that's the number one, become a people. Become we the people. And what we saw is that this this is a shredder. It's artificial intelligence. Right?
Speaker 2:As great as citizens giving us information, the information is cut off from a deeper space of being well informed. When we're the inform we're informed. We're zoning. This is a zoning. This is when we're in.
Speaker 2:We're intimate with being here, with reality. This is intimacy with reality. This is being severed. That's why it's artificial. And that means we're objectified.
Speaker 2:That means we're entities. And if we're entities, the great teacher says no, that means you're like a subhuman. You never treat a person as an object. Why are you doing that to yourself and to others in this technology, which is running the show because you're not intending you're good people, but your wills are captured. You're not free will.
Speaker 2:And as Kant said, the greatest value in the universe, and out of it is a goodwill, a free will. For example, so what you're saying is somehow, we have to help. Last, in our last episode, you said, it looks like Mission Impossible because it's not it's it's not it's been millennia. If all the great geniuses in scriptures have been urging us to make a a crossing, to migrate, here we're still immigrants. We're in a diaspora.
Speaker 2:We're still not the homeland or to homeland if you wanna play with it. Right? We're not we're not on own base. We're not on the land of the free. Land here, land is not physical geography.
Speaker 2:It's mind land. It's it's heart land. It's the land of consciousness. It's the land of awakened adult sapiens. Right?
Speaker 2:So just because you hear the words homo sapien doesn't mean sapien means wisdom. What is wisdom? Crossing into the light of reason, into the awakened mind. Become a critical thinker. Don't be embedded.
Speaker 2:Break the mental state. This is this is breaking the trends right here. Mhmm. This little arrow is indicating, wow. If I can step back somehow and realize I've been captured.
Speaker 2:I'm not a free being. I'm colonized. Colonized people can't be a free dog or dog or dog or a demos. So when you become a demos, you're putting source first. You're a source sapien.
Speaker 2:And that's what, for example, in the American call, but it's across the planet, all the great wisdom teaches is unless we make this crossing and break the strands, this hold of the malware on our lives, we're not going to free beings and and with mature adult humans. I mean, we're not gonna be have well-being. It's mental health. It's existential health. Because well-being, if we're cut off, we're ill.
Speaker 2:Our being is ill, and therefore it's a disaster. And so furthermore, just to add on what you beautifully opened up now, I'm just trying to replay it in a way to to capture another fast forward trailer, a retro trailer. Is that what does this do? The shredder, it breaks into units, in Lego units and pieces. It breaks the people apart.
Speaker 2:We can't be we. We can't truly be connected. And even if we can have moments of feeling like, oh, I declare it and post things on social media that we've got to be awake. We've gotta do this has been going on for centuries. But if you're still here, you're not really in the wisdom space.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. So this is we the people. Mhmm. And it's not just for the colonies or not just for UK or not just for Europe or not just for Africa or not just for Asia. It's all the people.
Speaker 2:Right? When you this is the people place, and it's not bound by government, ideology, religion. And think of you know, I was thinking about John Lennon's song a couple of days ago. I said, wow. Imagine?
Speaker 2:Imagine. What what remember what it says? You did a beautiful uncover of that. Imagine imagine no country. Imagine no religion.
Speaker 2:Imagine none of these borders. Right? He saw that the you may say I'm a dreamer, but not not one day we're gonna get there. You know? Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And so, yo, being being a person is the first primary work before us. Become adults. Rational beings with the lights turned on and critical awareness and heads up mindfulness. That's a person.
Speaker 1:And I wanna say something that I've, keeps coming up for me because I think one of the the the potential pitfalls of seeing it in this light, which actually you've already addressed in the in the design of this hologram, it can seem like what we're saying is everyone's down here. Right? And and it there's almost like this black and whiteness to it. Like, either you're here or you're or you're here, and it's that's not the true truth. In fact, all that goodness and all of that wisdom that is that does come through people, and and, I mean, we do love and we do care for each other and we do, excuse me, amazing things and have amazing breakthroughs and amazing works of art and songs and movies and all the amazing beauty.
Speaker 1:It's not like, it's not that we don't have access to that space, and it's all just right. Nothing.
Speaker 2:You're right. Here it is right all around you. Yes. We couldn't do this without that.
Speaker 1:Exactly. And that's what I wanted to just just help people see that just in case you might be slipping into, well, that sounds pretty lofty up there. No. That's your home's that's your home ground. That's where you're most at home.
Speaker 1:That's the most natural place. It's not it's not this, like, hierarchy. It's it's much more that we are it's we we in a way, we are already in the zone space, but why can't we feel it? Why why why are we feeling you know, when we're feeling emotions like depression and despair and, feeling lost, feeling alone, all of those things, anxiety, these are all symptoms of of of something very real that's preventing us from being us being in our our homeland, our homeland. It's not some lofty, high ideal that we're talking about.
Speaker 1:We're talking about home base, your home base, our home base, which is unique to all of us and yet somehow shared in all of our diversity and all of our different stages. This is not about information that's gonna get us up to that zone and having to have any specific education. No. This is the most natural thing there is. This is the flow of nature.
Speaker 1:This is the most in your very body and the way your body works and the way your brain works is like, what what what's happening is we're grinding ourselves down because something is also happening, and that's what we're trying to say. So I wanted to just interject that for a moment, Deb. So and and I see you're already addressing it in the next page just to make sure that you're not accidentally or by default saying, well, I guess I'm here, and I have to get up there somehow. You know? Let let that go.
Speaker 1:You're already here.
Speaker 2:You're all here.
Speaker 1:But what we're we're saying
Speaker 2:is how do I sustain that? To to to get critical and let that go, it shows that you're already in the zone.
Speaker 1:Yes. Thank you.
Speaker 2:This is really looking. This is
Speaker 1:been dying to say that.
Speaker 2:No. This brings it up. So this is just a distillation of this. Yeah. So breaking the trans for all humans, excuse me, is the first order of business.
Speaker 2:Because once you begin to become aware of the science of the unified field of being, of reality, by whatever name here we're calling the logos, but call it what you wish. It's the infinite field. It's own base. It's home base. It's Christ based.
Speaker 2:It's Allah based. Yahweh based. All all of this is all here. This is a field. These are all in for the infinite unifying force.
Speaker 2:And and and this is where meet the meeting point of all of the shredded people. If the people are in their silos here, they're not yet we. But this is extremely powerful. Every point here in in the field that's not blocked off by this artificial intelligence, this software, derivative software, is a PowerPoint of the infinite, as Blake would say in every grain of sand.
Speaker 1:And that's the power that we need if we're going to become the civil wars, so to speak. He said everything it's all civil war down in this space. In other words, if we're in this space, all there is is ideologies and opinions and perspectives. I or we, the community, us, our world view, our religion, our, you know, vision for the country or whatever it is. And and and in that space, as long as we're we're wanting to as long as we don't break the trance, all that we can have in this space is warring factions.
Speaker 1:The Shredder, you keep calling it. All we can do is go go at each other, and then it becomes, in one way, shape, or form, whose ideology wins? Who's gonna be the bully on the playground? You know, that's not the promised land, that's not our home base, that's not that's not peace, that's not we the people. The only way to find trap tap the true power that everyone knows is there and we're trying and people are raising their voices, but you can hear in the raising of the voice, you can feel the misguided attempt to to try and make things better, and it almost comes across more as a sort of panic and a franticness.
Speaker 1:And and ironically, we can raise our voice from a disempowered place. The true power is in breaking the trance where each of us becomes a power point of that zone, and that's where we can be we the people. And and it's not, it's not any, race or religion or nation overpowering the other. We know that. That's never gonna, end well.
Speaker 1:It's all of us overcoming this the mental slavery, which is not just mental. It's being slavery. It's slavery on all levels in the sense
Speaker 2:of Discontious.
Speaker 1:To this deep malware. That's that's the essence of everything that we're saying here, and that's what we gotta do. And it's actually the best news you could ever possibly hear because, man, to go and attack all the aliens out there on the battlefield, all of the symptoms just makes everybody wanna throw their arms up and just say, fuck it. I I can't do this. I don't want I just never it's impossible.
Speaker 1:And that's where the despair comes in and the dread and the depression and all that stuff that people are feeling for good reason. It's because we don't realize we really do have the power, but it's right here at home. It's right here at at home. We keep calling it home, but home is the field. It's another name.
Speaker 2:Nothing. What you're saying brings up the theme that's real much in the air right now in terms of AI. And, there there's a certain narratives out there that there are two things I'd like to bring up. First, I'd like to talk about this, and I wanna come back. Why is it that all of these competing narratives are competing and vying here?
Speaker 2:That they're in the same boat. They're in the same I'd like to bring that up. But but come back to that in a moment. But right now, there's been a long issue. Is is a computer a person?
Speaker 2:Is is does a computer have a mind? And and right now, there's almost a sense as a tech techno tech technology and, technocracy, and the the computer wins. And the AI is gonna dominate who it is to be a human object, a mechanism, objectified humans. Not a homo sapiens, not not a logosapiens, but Lego entities. It's subhuman.
Speaker 2:It's prehuman.
Speaker 1:Objects, machines.
Speaker 2:Yeah. An object. Right? And right now, you might say, what's the biggest drama of the last centuries but peaking now? It's organic intelligence, humans, over objectified mechanized intelligence, artificial intel are we AI entities?
Speaker 2:This is very serious what I'm saying. Mhmm. Does everyone know how to distinguish between the powers and limits of cyber logic and cyberspace under this space and what it means to have the objectified in this space and why, in effect, we've been living in that objectified space for millennia. This is not new. Computers are just a way to bring it out embarrassingly into the open.
Speaker 2:Are we computer sapiens?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Are we or are we a person? Yeah. So the battle of the planet now for the human family across the planet this is why everyone across the planet has to pay attention. Are you a person, a free agent, beyond the possibility of objectified, a sacred being, or are you an entity, an object, a cyber entity, a cyber sapien? Are you a cyber sapien or a Logos kid?
Speaker 2:Mhmm. Are we rational beings? That's what we're saying. And rationality here is in a derivative form of reason, a computer reason.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:I've objectified, informationized reason. I mean, we informationized ourselves, each other. And objectified, and it leads to profound fallout of widespread disorder. Yeah. It's a deeper medical diagnostic.
Speaker 2:This is important. When you ask why is it so important to break the trans, because we're suffering all kinds of pathologies and dysfunctions. Why? Because of this. This is goddess.
Speaker 2:It's a shredder. It's polarizing. It's fragmenting. We can't be we. We can't be one nation under under Lego Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Because this is the this is the divider in chief. It's not one one, you know, rogue, misguided leader or strong man or woman across the planet who is the divider in chief. This is the divider in chief. And you can't, in The USA version, a more perfect union. No.
Speaker 2:You can get a more perfect disunion than being trapped here. Yeah. It breaks everything in here. Yeah. This is a perfect disunion.
Speaker 2:If you want a more perfect union. Mhmm. Right? Somehow you're gonna see the disunion in the Shredder where everything is polarized and broken. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And perpetual civil war across the planet. And all of the sites and and inside each person, there's a civil war between this version of the self and that version.
Speaker 1:You know, I wanna call yeah. And just as as a a very important thing to keep in mind with what you're saying when you when you say rational beings, these words I wanna I wanna once and for all address this. These words of rational, reason, and logic have been bastardized and cut off from their true meanings. And then and and, diminished into well, that rational, oh, that's just heady or that's just, you know, in the mind and not the body and and we we we're grossly misunderstanding and and associating reason with the abuse of reason, which is what that lower space is.
Speaker 2:What that
Speaker 1:a the AI intelligence, which is way older than computers. It's we're we're the generators of AI, artificial intelligence. Humans are well before technology took over the external. You know? So so logic think of the words take back the words logic, reason, rational, mind, take those words back, take those concepts back, exalt them to their home, meaning, the original meaning because it's like another way of saying sense, reality, sanity.
Speaker 1:It's like we want sense. We want things to make sense. That's what we're talking about. When something makes sense, it's because it rings true. It's you're actually ringing the bell of truth, of reality.
Speaker 1:That's beyond facts and opinions and interpretations and all of the noise that goes down in that lower version of the mind. Yeah. There's a higher version of the mind that includes all of our human experience, our feelings, our body. You know? So I just really wanna and I'll probably say that again and again because I've been witnessing for a while how much those words can be can trip us up and be hang ups for
Speaker 2:for for some people. So There's a phobia of the mind here by many people. Mind phobia. Mhmm. Right?
Speaker 2:And what you just said, North, is that this language has copped and downloaded these noble words, like language, double bracket. Yeah. The word in the beginning is the word, not our single bracket artificial word. Reason, the light of logos. Where is logic?
Speaker 2:It's the science of logos, ology, logosology, source science, the light of reason. Where is that? Being. Reality. Source of all.
Speaker 2:Can't have a Love. It's love. That's love. This is a
Speaker 1:Have a love.
Speaker 2:A community of love. Mhmm. We the people. This is imagine when we finally mature from this version, this downsized camp as colonized people here, but colonized in ways we don't understand. And the first order of business for all humans across the planet, all of our human family, that's to whom we're speaking, folks, everyone across.
Speaker 2:We're in the same family. Whatever your persuasion or dissuasion or disorientation or whatever it is, it doesn't matter. This is what counts. Let's let's let's migrate. We're immigrants.
Speaker 2:Who are the immigrants? Who are displaced and homeless? All the people. So how do you come home finally? We're wandering and lost in the desert, a captive, and we need to migrate home and to become citizens of a planet.
Speaker 1:Migrate in place, you know? Migrate right where we are.
Speaker 2:In place. That's that's exactly right. That's what this brings out right where you are. You you you step above let go of the the the the the binder that that's that's holding us back in captivity. This is this is the captive mind.
Speaker 2:But stepping back from that, which is the greatest act, that's breaking the trans. And all of our great wisdom teachers are saying, you gotta find a way to deal with these folks, and then you find yourself there already. It's in place. Mhmm. We're always in the place.
Speaker 2:All of this alienation is still in place. And if we can get out of the way of this malware, that gives us gives us a lot. Yes. It gives us language, reason, sense, all of that, but in an artificial premature sense. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. And what you just said is so so let's wake up the mind. Let's not be mind phobic. Let's use our mind. We have to be mindful.
Speaker 2:That's when we become a full human being.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Mindfulness is well-being. Yes. And meaning what the meaning in life. If the lights are out here, as Camus was saying, and there's no reason there's no reason there's no reason to be. What is a reason to be?
Speaker 2:Reason is a reason there's no death.
Speaker 1:That's a good point that you're bringing out because, I mean, the the the lower space when I use the word insane, which would be, like, irrational in a deep sense, you know, that's a that place is absurd. It's a it's a there's a there's a real sense of nihilism and absurdity that we are I think, honestly, the truth is we're scared to death of facing that part. But there could be nothing more liberating than than going, woah, and and and taking that bold step that that many amazing philosophers have done along the way in their own ways, but I think we're doing it in kind of a deeper level now to see because you can you can say, oh, everything is nihilistic and absurd and just stay in the absurd space. That's what I was saying. That's what a lot of philosophers have done, sort of called out the absurdity and say, well, you're just gonna have to find a reason to be.
Speaker 1:But we're saying something different by calling out the absurdity and the and the nihilism meaning just the pointlessness. Like, what's the point? I think a lot of people to my original point in this this episode, I think that's what I'm sensing in people right now. There's this real despair, which is to say, what's the point? And that's a form of nihilism, but that's just the first step.
Speaker 1:It's actually kinda good that we're getting to that point, but we're saying, no, don't stop there. Yeah. There there is no point within the trance. We just gotta step back from the trance because there is no point here. But that's when you get that's when you discover your true innate meaning.
Speaker 1:You know, that's where
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:The innateness of your reason to be is there. And that's what happiness is. And that's what we're all looking for. Imagine everybody finding that. Do you think we'd be going at each other's throats?
Speaker 1:Do you think we would wanna, you know, rape nature and and cause all this destruction and kill each other? Of course not. That's all symptomatic of us being profoundly desourced from our true sense of being.
Speaker 2:Well said. Well said.
Speaker 1:Because when people say, oh, money is the root of all evil or greed is the root of all evil. No. That's a miss that's again, you're buying into the the the the alien on the battlefield, the symptom. No. Money money as we know it, the way that it's used and abused in our culture, and and the the economic injustice and unfairness and imbalance, those are symptomatic of this of this trance.
Speaker 1:And and, and and we we mistakenly place our sense of meaning and purpose and value in that cultural space across the globe in all different variations. And so we're not really no. It doesn't matter how much we attain. Greed means that you're trying to fill something that can never be filled no matter how much. Break the trance, step back, mind your minding, come home, migrate and place all the things that we've been saying today.
Speaker 1:That's where we find our true meaning
Speaker 2:and value. This is so important. And you can have all the riches. You could be a rich the wealthiest oligarch is poor. Jesus called it that.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. It's harder for a trillionaire to gain access to the source than it is for you know what.
Speaker 1:For a camel to go through the eye of a needle or something.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Whatever. Whatever.
Speaker 1:Put a needle in a camel's eye or whatever. That's why
Speaker 2:because you're so committed to now your your stuff, your stuff here. That's not wealth. Money riches, single bracket money, is devalued. If you could find a dollar here in the in the Christ, in the in the god space, a god dollar, a a Buddha dollar, a yoga dollar, Wow. And our great thinkers like Nietzsche, beyond good and evil.
Speaker 2:Right? Transvaluation. We've gotta go into a deeper valuation. Mhmm. The real value he's talking about.
Speaker 2:This is false AI, artificial value. I give you some stuff. I'm empty. I'm empty over here because I'm cut off from me. And I'm trying to fill it, and I've got more likes.
Speaker 2:I've got more money. I've got more fame. I've got more stuff. Yeah. Whatever.
Speaker 2:That's not wealth. A person have no money but be wealthy. Jesus understood that. Buddha understand that. That's logonomics, not legonomics.
Speaker 2:Pieces and little bits of whatever, and you can have a lot of it, a big deal. I'm not impressed with a lot of a lot of riches here. Am I impressed with someone who is standing in the love? Wow. And we're all there.
Speaker 2:We're sacred. We're boundlessly, deeply valuable. That's what sacred humans are. That's our noble human rights, life, liberty, well-being. What's the pursuit of happiness, Nuh?
Speaker 2:If it's not clear. Mm-mm. Life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. Well, happiness is well-being. So this is pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 2:I want to be fulfilled. And I I'm trying to fill myself up with I got a lot of bucks. I got a lot of likes. I got a lot of fame. I got a lot of who cares?
Speaker 2:Artificial values is not true value. That so you're gonna have a life crisis. Mhmm. The implosion of meaning. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And see the emptiness of all of this. The great teachers knew that. Yeah. I'd rather be wealthy than rich.
Speaker 1:Well said.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry. No. I'm glad. I'm not sorry.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Don't be sorry. That's that's amazing.
Speaker 2:I'm not sorry. I'm not looking for likes. I'm not looking for likes. I'm not trying to make it into pop culture. I'm not trying to get into social media.
Speaker 2:That's why we have source media. That's what we're doing. What is source media? Right? Think of Gandhi talking about how do you move the greatest power?
Speaker 2:What is it, Satya power, truth force, logos power, word power, Christ power, Buddha power. That's power. That's power to the people. Mhmm. Satya power.
Speaker 2:And as long as we're here, we're gonna be impotent, unproductive in the deepest sense.
Speaker 1:Mhmm. And the Gandhi, experiment is a very good example, and and, and Gandhi remains since I saw the movie when I was in eighth grade that I did a report on Gandhi, he remains one of my all ultimate heroes. But, you you know, in the Gandhi story, you see, you know, they liberated India from the British Empire, and then they broke into Lego countries, Pakistan and India. And and then it was, you know, for fraternal war there. And and that that is another perfect example.
Speaker 1:So so you can you can kick out the the external oppressor, but if we don't get the internal oppressor, we're just back in the same loop.
Speaker 2:This is huge now.
Speaker 1:You know, it's huge.
Speaker 2:That's why that's why The USA example looking at that again, we're not really only concerned about USA but across the planet. That's why USA failed to get started because we didn't do the homework. The opening of a declaration, whatever codes, conventions bring us in mind as one to another, if it violates this, our dignity and independence and freedom, we must separate. But, yes, separate from the British, the external oppressor, the monarchy. Okay.
Speaker 2:Good. Yes. But how about the inner monarchy?
Speaker 1:It's come right back around. It comes right back around.
Speaker 2:Yeah. People are saying we're coming right back around. Right? That's us. It didn't work.
Speaker 2:So the whole experiment for two hundred and fifty years in the American example, and we're using the an example. We're not primarily looking at the whole human family. You're just born in India. Right? You can go to the Middle East.
Speaker 2:You can go to Gaza and Israel. You can go anywhere. Anywhere. You know, Ukraine and Russia. You you can go all the way.
Speaker 2:You're gonna find the same repeating virus showing up. Yeah. You know? But it's this is I may get in trouble for saying this now, but The USA holy experiment is about to get started. We did part a, get rid of the external colonizer, but then we have to get rid of the internal.
Speaker 2:We haven't done that. We just went on. Oh, we go, no, folks. You didn't do it. So we've been living in a junta.
Speaker 2:The the original version of USA is still not here. It's not still not turning on one nation under logos, indivisible Mhmm. With liberty and justice for all. Mhmm. And Plato said, until there's wisdom in the culture, there will not be justice in the society.
Speaker 2:This is wisdom here.
Speaker 1:Mhmm.
Speaker 2:We're not a wise. We're not oh, sapiens are the wise species. We're not wise yet. We're still adolescent. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And we've gotta grow up now. Not just in America. Would you use that as an example again? We're not choosing science. By the way, this is something I hope we can go into the next because we time is running out.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But whatever different narratives you have, you can have science versus religion here. You can have a one political party over the other here. You can have racism or anti racism. You can have different polar views.
Speaker 2:You can have a big bang of a genesis. Right? You can have all the polarities here, but they're in the same code. They're in the same boat. If this is the Titanic, then even the opposites are still not getting into the deeper space.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Into Noah's Ark. This is Noah, k n o w e r, the awakened mind mindful human being. This is the new knower's arc, and this is the the The
Speaker 1:correct end. Yeah.
Speaker 2:The the perennial millennial, you know, hopeless ship that that is not gonna not gonna sail. It's going under. And the and the virus is getting stronger across the planet. Mhmm. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:And the cyber threat now of becoming artificial humans is now techno technocracy dominating all the humans. You might as well get a chip. There's a chip in our minds already.
Speaker 1:Yeah. This is
Speaker 2:a chip in our minds. Mhmm. Yeah. And we got a chip on our shoulders too. We gotta get on through this knot.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Because our human nature is in at risk now. We've got to be seen. A person is not a cyber sapien, a techno sapien. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:An object. Not a robot. Not reptilian sapien. We're human. That's what we're saying.
Speaker 2:Break the trance, end the cycle of violence and malpractice and meltdown that's been going on over and over four millennia. Mhmm. That's what we're saying.
Speaker 1:Yes. Well, I think that's a that's a perfect place. Wow. Wow. So the experiment today was to just kick kick it off and see where we go.
Speaker 1:I can't even believe how You're
Speaker 2:you're in trouble, man. You you opened all of these points. I just responded to you. You know? Yeah.
Speaker 2:I I I think we wanna go get we're aiming for a limit of forty minutes.
Speaker 1:Which we're we're literally right there, so it's perfect timing. And, again, guys, this I hope you can feel the inclusiveness of this across party lines, across national lines, across any kind of of of of artificial borders that we've considered.
Speaker 2:In The USA example, all the people across The USA, we we love you. We want we want to come together. Mhmm. This is a time for the most perfect doing them. Finally, not here.
Speaker 2:We didn't do it here. And this is the plan. We the People. All of us Yeah. We the People.
Speaker 2:All for Canada, for UK, for all of Europe, Australia, Asia, South America, Africa. All our beautiful people come together now. Mhmm. And then there's another Beatles song come together now.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It is. Yeah. That's a call to come together now with the people here. According to not nationalism, not nationality, not religion, not gender, none of that. Those are these dividers.
Speaker 2:A noble human being is beyond all of those fragmentations of ideologies and derivative scriptures and religions, you know, belief systems and all of that. When you become a person in the notebook, sacred space, that's when we shine in our power and our beauty. Yeah. And that's what we're calling across the planet. We have time to come together.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. We're we're in a global space now. We're in a global world. The planet as a whole is together now. These are the new colonies.
Speaker 2:We gotta get and we're colonized. It's time to to to come together, people. Please. Yay.
Speaker 1:Alright. This is, we're gonna we're gonna pick this up next time, the next one, and go deeper into some of the themes that that came
Speaker 2:out here. Speaking to everyone across the planet, our human family, and, we feed it with a passion. We've got to really come together now. So please join us again. If you can do a session with Novin, if any of you are moved to have in a small group or individually coaching from Navin Or us.
Speaker 2:Part of his practice. Pardon me?
Speaker 1:Or us. You know?
Speaker 2:Or us. I'll be happy to do that too. And he Navin gives a link, and he is developing his practice further. He's a master, a life coach in the code education. This is new.
Speaker 2:We never had the code before, the code markers. They were there always, but never called out by all the great teachers. This is new. And unless we get the code shift, and that's where Jonathan did yoga is not here. Yoga is here.
Speaker 2:His music and brilliant lyrics and songs and performances from the source. And these, we don't call them podcasts. We call them source cast. We're not trying to get social media in this space, but bring a deeper open space of source media, source cast. That's what we're doing here.
Speaker 2:So if you would like to get coaching on this, please, you know, respond to nothing. I like
Speaker 1:I would love that.
Speaker 2:Endorsement, nothing.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you. Thank you, dad. I appreciate that. Alright. We'll see you next time, guys.
Speaker 1:Okay. Bye. Bye, everybody. I am here.
Speaker 2:Oh, alright. My Yeah. Already here. Oh. Alright.
