((Ending)) The |Human Virus|
We are the promised people. We are the people.
Näthan:Welcome to Breaking the Trance Sourcecast. This is episode 12, ending our human virus. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to to episode 12 of our Breaking the Trance Sourcecast. I wanna start reminding you at the beginning of each of these episodes, for those of you who are listening on the many places that we have this on audio podcast, you may notice sometimes it seems you might be referencing visuals and gesticulating as part of what we're teaching and sharing in terms of breaking the trance.
Näthan:We're talking about things like the code and the code issue, which we're gonna go into today. Just remember that you can come watch us when you have some time. It's worth making a trip on over here to to YouTube. Our channel is called Source Media Network, and come come watch the shows as well. You get to kinda see us and there's a visual component to this teaching that we're bringing you.
Näthan:So you'll definitely get a lot of value just listening in as you go about your days in your cars or washing dishes or wherever you listen to podcasts, but just wanted to remind you that this is sort of originally made for video. So if you want the full experience, come on over here to Source Media Network on YouTube. And that said, today we're going into episode 12. Can't believe we're already on 12. This is amazing.
Näthan:And we've covered so much ground, and obviously the whole theme here we keep on coming to is about breaking the trance. We're using the word trance to kind of call out the deep human condition on the level of our being as individuals and as a community and as a global community. We we we it's not hard to see that we're with even with all of the beautiful things about humans and and our incredible breakthroughs across the board in the arts and the sciences and just the good, loving natured people that we generally are, we can obviously see that this this planet, this global community is really struggling right now and has been for a very long time, which is why when what we call often refer to the revered wisdom teachers as first responders or the first teachers, the teachers of what is first through the ages, they've all been addressing this deep, deep issue that we've we've been facing. So in other words, while the suffering that we're experiencing that humanity is and all the problems and all the pathologies and all the the, you know, violence and all the things that we can point to, we're we're experiencing a modern day version of a very old problem.
Näthan:Just as we pointed out in a few episodes back that, you know, we've got AI now, but really the roots of AI and Google and the information age actually goes way back to the origins of language, really. And and the the the side effect that we didn't know was happening as we language developed, we didn't realize that we were also developing a deep code underneath that. There's a lot of ways to call this code out, but one of the ways I like to refer to it is it's a deeply objectifying code. So if you think of it this way, anything your your mind touches, anything you perceive, anything you experience is is being interpreted, and it's being interpreted with just like our computers and all of our digital world uses the ones and zeros of binary code. Well, that kind of originated with us.
Näthan:The binary code started in our own minds, in our own consciousness, and this this kind of either or black and white sort of deep infrastructure of our of our minds and our experiences and our lives, no matter what religion or nonreligion or culture or language you speak, it's all using the same foundational code. And its its effect is that it objectifies everything, including ourselves. Mostly ourselves, the user of the objectifying code, which we're calling the trance or the cause of this trance that humans are in, is it's it's it's equal opportunity. Everybody's everybody's involved in that in that code, and and it's it's put us in a place where we're so deeply entrenched in it. And and, you know, one symptom, kinda like when we take prescriptions to deal with one like, ailment of some kind, and then you need a prescription for that prescription and on and on and on.
Näthan:It's kind of like we're almost deep in this game of treating the foundational issue, which is that we are cut off from our true nature, our true source, our true happiness, our bliss, our well-being. We're cut off from it. And this is something we don't even really know because it happens, as we pointed out last time. We're born bound. We're born into it.
Näthan:We're thrust into this this code which kind of cuts us off from our true nature, our true bliss, our true well-being. And then all of the ways in which we try to deal with that condition ends up compiling the issue and compounding the issue, and and we get almost deeper and deeper in it. And now we're so deeply entrenched in that in a time where lots of wisdom wisdom bits or bites, mind bites of wisdom are being flung around the culture all over the place, whether it's on social media or in books and bestsellers and, you know, gurus and this and that. There's so many ways that people are delivering objectified wisdom, packaged wisdom, which has a certain glimmer of light. The thing like if we say power of now or any of these, like, slogans that we have.
Näthan:We're not putting anyone down, of course, but we're saying, know, be here now, or or, you know, there is god within all of us, or or just you can think of countless ways that we have these these these wisdom, sayings and teachings. And and and you know what? The the it's not that anyone delivering these things are are malintention, but what we fail to recognize and what we keep calling out, what this episode is really largely about is if we don't face the underlying cause of our human condition, which is what we're calling the code issue or the the malware that's deeply implanted in our mind operating system, then all of this wisdom is is falling flat. It's it's, in a way, vacuous. In a way, it's just like wisdom candy.
Näthan:It gives us a little buzz, and then we have to find more of that wisdom candy. To just call it what it is, there's a lot of people who are capitalizing on that in that space. So it's it's like selling it's like staying in the trance and selling the hope of getting out of it, but not actually getting out of it. And I'm not saying that a lot of these people are aware that they're doing this. I think it's just that the the code issue is so deep.
Näthan:The trance is so deep. And without the proper education, which we're trying to bring you, we're calling it source science. In a way, it's kind of a a science of all sciences. All the sciences have a a a source science that kind of unifies them all in their diversity. Without that source science, we keep on spinning our wheels and we keep on having to kinda like it's almost like we have to get another hit of wisdom or get another hit of hope.
Näthan:But long run, we can see it's not working. So we're really, in a way, kinda blowing the whistle on that and saying, everybody stop. Everybody stop. It's not that we're malintentioned. It's that we don't realize that we're, in a way, expending and wasting our precious energies of trying to get better are using the same code that got us here in the first place.
Näthan:So that's gonna be my my opening statement just to get things going, dad. I'd love to hear your your take, on on what we're doing today. But, yeah, I would just say, if we don't hit hit pause and step back and get the source science and not just presume that because we all have access to a kind of an innate wisdom and goodness and connection to source. We all do have that within us, but that doesn't mean it's granted that we are that it's that we are capacitated to be able to to be out of the trance and in the space of of well-being. We have to there is some heavy lifting involved.
Näthan:There's some work that does need to be done to activate that innate wisdom, and that's what we're seeking to do here with source of science and calling out the code issue, which we're gonna go into now. Dad, I hope I didn't talk too long with that issue.
Speaker 3:I love the way you framed it very eloquent. It's so much sheer. I think the entire this entire episode number 12, which it is has to do with if we don't face when you call the code, people might be put put off by that because code is is all around us. You know, we have cyber code, of course, and the DNA code, and, you know, the laws are in a code. There there there are rules and conventions and laws and principles that govern.
Speaker 3:So everyone knows grammar. Grammar is a code, the grammar of any language, with the rules and syntax that gives us the rules of language, how to make sense. Right? Right? So it's it's a it should be a a household word code.
Speaker 3:But what you said beautifully, would be saying all through these source casts, we're not talking for where we are in ordinary medium, but source meaning tapping with source. And you're saying something now that when I've all these decades as a first philosopher, teaching here at Heberford College and around the world with world leaders, bringing out this question of the quest for what is first. All the great first philosophers and first responders, Why? Because what is first? It seems a fundamental field of reality, of being, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3:You don't have to use god names for it, but there was a force. Philosophers like Aristotle and Socrates and Plato and Logos in the Greek, Right? The light of reason, the source of all reality that turns all the lights. Because he just said just to be a human and to experience is to read it, to interpret it. And if you interpret it, language itself already has a grammar, a code, a logic, whatever you want.
Speaker 3:Software is a good way to use the analogy. The software running that's allowing us to see and make sense of our world and have a world, have relations, have politics, have human relations, have a self, have science, arts, our creativity is expressed through that code. But as you suggested, and we've been bringing up over and over, I want to throw a question back at you because I'm getting not frustrated, and I don't want use a strong language here, but I will use strong language. Good. Enough already.
Speaker 3:Over two thousand five hundred years of our great first thinkers who are responding with different names, but they're in silos, whether it's Yahweh or Allah or God or Tao or Brahman, or source or Sunyata, the Buddha. All of these first responders through the history, all the great philosophers, Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, leave the cave and come into the light of reason, know thyself, the Christ, the lowest in the flesh. Right? John begins, In the beginning is the Word, the Word was infinite, and the Word was with God, the Word was God's kingdom. All of these over and over, but they're in silos.
Speaker 3:If you keep them in silos, that means the derivative code, the software has got you already. And we've been bringing it up. You were already implanted. We're born into the language. A language has grammar.
Speaker 3:We learn how to use it. And we never understood the medical consequences of that that is cutting us off from a deeper access to ourselves, and to life, and to flourishing, and to happiness, and freedom, and ethics, and love, and being fully whole human. That's huge, not. And the great teachers, first philosophers, and scriptures are all trying to find creative ways to knock at that door and see this software, but we didn't have a way to say it. So leave the ego, leave desire, look at the don't look at resentment, all along.
Speaker 3:But but we don't realize that it takes great courage to step back to see your seeing, to see the software. The software is so deeply implanted, you be able point out. And if you don't see the code, then we're just spinning within the red zone here. If you have if your audio, well, check us out because I'm gesturing to a hologram. Just a very simple hologram to show that that when you take all of the scriptures and wisdoms and arts and sciences and bestselling books and and the gurus and all speaking into the space their wisdom from a higher space or even from here.
Speaker 3:It gets trapped within that software. In other words, the essence of wisdom or enlightenment or being a rational being or entering ethics or entering love or entering Christ or entering Buddha or entering yoga is stepping out of the code. The essence of wisdom and being human is face the buried code and break the code, break the trance. The trance is the software. It's what makes us able to it's brilliant, actually, to to be able to tame the logos on our terms in in in eons of evolution, to tame the fire of the source.
Speaker 3:Right? And to to have a technology, a a Google space, you know, is ancient. When you say it's ancient AI, we developed the tools of information. When you say objectification, people aren't gonna understand that. The thinker has a screen, and our information's processed through all of our narratives, all of our worlds, all of our arts, all of our sciences.
Speaker 3:In this space, it's going to be on the screen. That's how we get it out there and communicate, and it's an object of thought. And when you objectify yourself and the other content, you're cutting it off from a deeper encounter of the first kind. And I wanna ask I wanna throw a question. Actually, when are we gonna get this now?
Speaker 3:I mean, when when you use the word science, people are gonna say, why are you talking about? We got science. We got the truth. Mhmm. Look at all the technologies that we've got.
Speaker 3:Right? You you can't argue with. We got it on Mars or maybe not. It's because we get on the moon. I I don't know.
Speaker 3:But that's the point. We we have the cyber power. It's great what we've got, but we didn't do that. We didn't do that. This without the source, the source code.
Speaker 3:And we're doing source we're doing source casts From the place of wisdom and enlightenment and scriptures, they're all pointing no one can escape from being under the infinite source or whatever name you use. And the great teachers are saying, check it out, mind your minding, Be a critical thinker. Step back. Check out the software. We have the power to do that.
Speaker 3:Why? Because we're in the space already. And as you said, one of the things you hear in in pop wisdom, TikTok wisdom. It does not matter. I'm not putting it down.
Speaker 3:But you can't have slices and pieces and bits of this science. And when you use the word science, it's astounding. If there's one thing I like to just I'm upset about. It's that the ancient tradition of the people who understood the great philosophers, to get to what's first, the first responders, they knew that was a science of science. Plato, Socrates, our son, our elders in the European tradition, not to mention Buddha, Krishna, Moses, Muhammad, all of the others.
Speaker 3:I'm not don't wanna get into all of them. We did it before. They they realized that that that what is first is infinite. It's infinitely one. That means you can't be in silos.
Speaker 3:But this is a silo maker. Mhmm. The software we had put things in silos, and when you do that, you you you deaden it. You block it. So here's the point I wanna bring out with you again.
Speaker 3:We almost at ad nauseam now. If we are not calling out the software issue, we're in it. Yes. There is no code operation. The code's just conflated.
Speaker 3:You're code chaos. We're living in code chaos. For millennia, we can't hear the wisdom, which is what? The shift from the code. Yoga is not here.
Speaker 3:Yoga is crossing. Christ is not here. Christ is unless you die, you get to the code, to the software, the SIM code that cuts you. You're not gonna come to the Christ. You have to separated from that.
Speaker 3:This is just examples. If I'm a Christian, and my Jesus, I got my God, and God is here, no, you can't bring God here. You can't download the Logos speaking. That's a different language. It's a higher code, sourceware of Jesus.
Speaker 3:Moses getting the law. Mohammed surrendered Allah. Yoga, Krishna. Come into the Brahman. Come into the Buddha space.
Speaker 3:Don't call it God. Leave God out of it. It's science. So it's science. The great first thinkers were saying there is a deep science.
Speaker 3:If you're gonna get the DNA for what's first, it'll be the form of all forms, the science of all science, the knowing of all knowing. We know here, we have information, I got my science, I have my scientific method, but I'm calling out science too. It may sound like, how dare you? But science is within. If science has not stepped back to say, oh, I realize we have a cyber code that's working on the culture, and our great teachers are calling it out, and to get to deep science, which is intimacy with the field of nature, deep connections with it.
Speaker 3:It's a different lens. It's deep. It's like if you can have a telescope or microscope, and it could. But how about a whole scope? Mhmm.
Speaker 3:How about a source scope? Science understands scoping, right, and getting a new instrument. This is the technology of all technologies. Whatever technologies we have and we're taking credit for arrogantly within this space, using this and being used by it, we brought it in a lot. You couldn't have that.
Speaker 3:You couldn't be without this. You cannot be without being. Everyone's accountable to being, and you can't silo it. It's infinitely one. And once you see that all of our great striated, separated, fragmented, siloed, LEGO pieces separation of charts and bits of wisdom pieces just fail.
Speaker 3:Science is part of it. I would love to see science, the frontier science, theoretical physics and biology and epigenetics and all of these are beautiful. And nervous system science and brain science, all of that's great. And all the medicines we say, but if we're not facing, that these discoveries couldn't be without the source, but we're here, and we haven't faced the software issue. We're blocking a deeper wisdom, a deeper science.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. So source science has been a long dream of the greatest minds on the planet. So when people say, oh, the wisdom is in you, this is what I want to get back to now. Sorry it takes takes a while.
Näthan:No. No. I'm loving it. Keep going.
Speaker 3:You say, people one of the things you hear in the text we read here in the wisdom industry, in the wisdom and enlightenment industrial complex, right, that suggested we got the wisdom, sure you do. Here it is. You couldn't be with outside of the field of wisdom. No one can be outside whatever name you use for it. Source the source codes guide you.
Speaker 3:But then the the malware here has trapped us. We bring it up. And I'd love someone to say, no. I'm a scientist. Don't tell me I've got malware.
Speaker 3:Show me. All of you wisdom teachers who are publishing your books and bringing wisdom, you said, be here now or whatever it may be. I wanna ask not just the the the authors of those best selling, which is being brought up by the public, pop wisdom. I'm asking everyone, every human being, have you faced the code issue? Have you faced that you're living a derivative form of yourself according to our great teachers for two thousand five hundred years, and we're still not getting that wisdom is a code shift to a deeper, integral, holistic, sourceware in the light of reason, in the light of being.
Speaker 3:Ill being to well-being. I'm calling out every human being. And that solves too.
Näthan:Yes. Absolutely.
Speaker 3:Why is why is it so hard for people to to after it's not new. I want I'm calling out some people that all say, oh, it's it's in me already. I don't have to do any work. I've got the wisdom in it. Damn.
Speaker 3:No. You've gotta do some when you don't when you see our great teachers struggling for centuries to even knock at this door, knock at this door, and not I'm I'm trying to find it here. And even we step back and mind your minding and all of that, we talk about that. But if you don't call this out, you remain within it. Mhmm.
Speaker 3:That's a trance we're talking about. Mhmm. Mhmm. And the essence of enlightenment scriptures is to face that software, the malware that's breaking us down, fragmenting us, the human dysfunctions, pathologies, violence taking place in this let's call it a shit show. Right?
Speaker 3:And even though we have our arts and sciences, brilliant creative artists, we love it. Arts and science, and we're not putting it down, we're saying we wanna put it up. We're not putting Christianity, let's see the Christ. Rather than putting yoga down, let's do the yoga. So let's get the knowledge because this is urgent now, because this is a place of ethics where I and other are not objectified.
Speaker 3:You meet in the sacred space. This is sacred space. This is truth. This is knowledge. This is science.
Speaker 3:I throw the ball back at you.
Näthan:Yeah. That's interesting because episode two or three or something is anything sacred anymore. You know, we've calling all this out in a lot of ways. And to that point, you know, it makes me think of fracking, fracking and hacking. So fracking being, you know, obviously fracking, if you don't know, when we It sounds like cracking and breaking.
Näthan:Yeah. Yeah. We break into the earth. Right? And extract We're
Speaker 3:breaking into the zone. Yeah.
Näthan:Yeah. And we extract the the oil, you know, in this analogy, the oil is like the wisdom. Like, the the we we have access to it in a way, but in a way, we're almost like unself aware plagiarists. And, again, this sounds like a put down, but it's like it's not like we're being malintentioned. Again, it's like we don't realize that every thought we have, every sentence we speak, whether it's spoken or not, any iota of experience is drawing on the infinite connectivity of reality.
Näthan:But what we're not seeing is that our code the way the code that's operating our our thinking is actually breaking things up, and and that's what I meant by objectifying. Everything in a way is objectified. Every thought Unit. Unit. Like a Lego piece.
Näthan:Every piece, you know, every person. You say, oh, that person's not an object, but that rock is an object. No. Even deeper level of objectifying. It's everything is objectified on that deep level.
Näthan:And so we don't realize it's almost like like when you say we're tamed the logos, like we learn how to tame the the word power, like taming fire. You know? We we learn how to tame it, but we tamed it on our terms. We don't so we forgot that we were we're we're tap the word, thought, being is made possible and brought to you by the infinite, by the sacred space, and yet our way of using it is almost like a it's almost like we're taking from it, fracking, but disregarding the source of it. And then the hacking part is now we're using now we're in the space where we're fracking, and now we're gonna say, hey, this is how you're gonna get to well-being.
Näthan:You're gonna do this meditation technique, or you're gonna gonna do a cleanse and get a cleanse, or you're gonna try this psychedelic, and it's gonna get you there, or you're gonna, you know, you're gonna go and we're using all that all that same technology of thinking that's put us in this place of being alienated from from well-being, and now we're gonna hack our way back into it on our terms. So the the whole scene is kind of like a fracking and hacking kind of thing, and it all is based on the fact that we're we're we're not stepping back from the code and realizing, oh my god. It's almost like when you, you know, say, you take your shoes off as when you walk into the temple. Well, you're never not in the temple. There's never a moment you're not in sacred space, but we we proceed in a kind of a normalized mundaneness of existence.
Näthan:And we're just you know, if you think about it, like, you know, if you think of everything as your own home or any place you walk, even the grocery store or public restroom, if you think of everything as sacred space, and then you think, how I moving through sacred space? Sacred meaning it's not just for us to narcissistically make noise and clamor around and get what we want and consume and and and mouth off and all the things that we're doing. It's like we've all forgotten that we're in sacred space. You know? And and so so even the wisdom market or the industrial wisdom industrial complex is that I just love that you coined that.
Näthan:You know, that's a kind of noise too. It's kind of it's kind of like the way I see it. A lot of people who are kinda cashing in on these shiny sayings and, you know, wisdom candy and and selling that, but it's not getting us out of the trance. It's almost like more like wisdom of pacification. You know?
Näthan:It's like, you don't have to leave the cage cave. Here, just hold this candle and you'll you'll be fine. You know? And the candle, you know, burns out, then you gotta get another one. You know?
Näthan:It's just like, no. It's leave the cave we're talking about. It's not stay on the Titanic as it's going down and learn how to find your your your happiness. Get off the Titanic. I'm trying to give different examples of the level that we're talking about here.
Näthan:And again, we keep on saying it, I really want to reiterate, I don't think anybody or very few people out there are malintentioned. I think that this is just not being said. There's nobody's as far as what I've seen out there, this is none none of this is being called out. We're staying in the single bracket code, not even knowing that that's that's there, and we're uttering these words of wisdom. We're uttering these teachings.
Näthan:We're imparting these techniques, purporting that it's gonna get us to enlightenment or get us to well-being or get us to happiness, you know, and it's not doing the trick. Even science, it's like, okay. Well, we can we can cure cancer. We can go to the moon or Mars or whatever. Like, okay.
Näthan:That's all great. But if we're suffering, that science the the most wildly advanced technological advancements that can prolong our lives and get rid of diseases, which God bless it, it's an amazing gift made possible by source, made possible by by a deeper science that's that's funding it and making it possible, that we're kind of fracking and and then taking credit for these breakthroughs rather than seeing, wow. We're tapping into the the potential of the infinite. We're saying we're doing it. We've made these things.
Näthan:You know, we can have the most incredible scientific breakthroughs, but it's still not gonna get us out of the off of Titanic. It's not gonna get us. We can go all the way to Mars and then destroy that planet too. You know? We can cure the the cancer that that was threatening my life and then still be forlorn and lost and missing a sense of meaning and deep meaning.
Speaker 3:A virus. There's a virus in the culture itself. Yes. The whole Science kind of science seem to call that out too. Right.
Speaker 3:Because when you say we say it, this is the place we say. The words, the language we use, this this red code is a is a grammar that gives us our language for all of our experience and life and emotions and creativity and productions and technologies and so forth, which couldn't be without the source. Mhmm. And so you can't talk your way out of the science.
Näthan:You can't talk You can't hack it.
Speaker 3:You can't you you can't hack you can't hack into source. You can't do it. You burn off. You you this this you can't why you cross? The only way to make crossing into the deeper mind software, sourceware, a higher technology of word processing, and mind processing, and mindfulness, and meditative awareness, not not language, propositional language, representational language, but language of the source.
Speaker 3:When you're surfing here, your being, the word is your being. You're not talking about it. This is representational. This is presentational logic Mhmm. Life.
Speaker 3:Then you're you're you're intimate with self and other. That's ethics. That's where the human flourishes and blossom. That's where science gets to a higher space. That's where medicine gets to tap the healing power.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. All of our all of the breakthroughs in alternative medicines and so forth, the desperation and aging. We're aging. And how can we de age and take these compounds or do these tricks in your your desperate to prolong longevity? Whereas this is longevity.
Speaker 3:This is a source of life. Science. So I think what we're saying here, what I'm saying, and I think I hear it from you now, is that it's about time we face the challenge of science. The science that we have is relevant, is relative to our software. If we're using science in the software, and we have a lens of the mind and a paradigm for science, whether it's Newton or Einstein, whether it's genetics or epigenetics, whether it's individual or holistic, whatever the science is, we have a model, You can have scientific revolutions and transformations in here.
Speaker 3:But the ultimate revolution of science is to see, because the great thing about science is you should be a critical thinker. You should be able to see that could it be that the undisclosed and undetected code or grammar or logic or software that we're living in, doing our science is fragmenting and breaking and fracking and not really a science? Science should be able to do that. We're calling out science. I'm I'm calling out every human being.
Speaker 3:Are you are you submerged within the the altar? Have you faced that? Even though the god and and Christ and Buddha and wisdom and enlightenment is within you. The great teachers had to fight their way out, and even then, they wasn't called love, clearly. They and they were to to to tapping the light of of enlightenment and wisdom.
Näthan:You say fight your way out, when you say fight, I wanna clarify what you mean by fight.
Speaker 3:Well, I mean that when you hear in pop culture that enlightenment is within you, or wisdom is within you. It's true. All of this is within us. But to fight your way out, obviously, why has it taken us so long, two thousand five hundred years of hearing the wisdom, to still be spinning in here? Jesus, for example, saw some important rite of passage has to happen to go from here to here.
Speaker 3:All of Buddha's enlightenment from here is calling out, you've got to detach and let go of this in order to open up and flourish as the Buddha within you.
Näthan:It's like a rehab process.
Speaker 3:It's a rehab, and you've got the and the essence of the rehab, of the crossing from the derivative space into the primary deeper space is the shift in the code and calling out the derivative. Seeing that the you can't shift out of it. You can't see it. If you know that God is within, you can't set your finger and reach God. Something is blocking.
Speaker 3:And when I say fight, there has not been respect enough and honoring of our great first responders through the ages. Yeah. We love Jesus. We love Moses. We love Buddha.
Speaker 3:We love Krishna. Sure, here. But if you're downloading the teachings here, you're not getting Jesus. You're not getting Christ. You're not getting Buddha.
Speaker 3:You're not getting yoga. They're all calling to shift the code. Mhmm. Come into a deeper place. Become human.
Speaker 3:This is ethics.
Näthan:Yeah. Don't download, but upgrade.
Speaker 3:Upscript. As you're one of your human up. Mhmm. Human up. That's a profound courageous thing because it's scary to leave this place.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. And a lot of the wisdom that people are living by and dying by here is, as you say, it's candy. It's wisdom candy. It's TikTok candy. You know?
Speaker 3:You it's pieces of that keeps me going. And then whatever it is, these phrases, be here now. Yeah. I like it. Right?
Speaker 3:Love is a great yeah. I love it. Christ is with me. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3:God is with you. Yeah. Allah. Whatever name. Right?
Speaker 3:We have that language, but but it's it's speaking here. Words here. Words of wisdom here are not wise. And words of wisdom means a shift in your being from a derivative malware into a primary higher form of mind processing. That's when you flourish and that's it.
Speaker 3:And I don't see people are calling that up. They didn't have this clarity of a derivative malware and a deeper space of source the source, the field of infinite source, science. And to say, if you're here, you're suffering and you can't get out, there's a powerful breakthrough to rise. You've gotta see the so I break the trance as on your way to who you are.
Näthan:Mhmm. I'm realizing that, like, one place that people could get tripped up here is, well, if this is true, then how how was it that I that I felt I really was I did see God, or I did have this divine awakening and, you know, I was on mushrooms, or or or I was in a meditation, or I was doing my yoga practice, or I was doing a breath technique, or or something or I was on the sports field, and and I just suddenly was no longer efforting, and I was in the zone. So you know? Or the music where I just I was listening to music or I was making music, and I just went into a whole new space. I think that that's what your guys are talking about.
Näthan:So so if this was really an issue, then then, you know, if we really needed this code code education, this code sensitivity and awareness, then how how could I even have that experience? And what I wanna say to that is, no. That's real. You you are tapping. That's the beautiful thing is when you remember we hear what we're saying here.
Näthan:There's no place you can go that is outside of the zone, outside of source. The issue here is that we're not living in that space. Somehow we've managed to cave ourselves and silo ourselves and objectify ourselves into a version of life that is primarily not that. And then we have these gasps of air, if you will, where we go, ah, we've so we see the sunset or we you know, we're making love and just you just enter this amazing zone and whatever it is. You know, we're all we've all had moments where we tap into that and we're we're sort of in that zone because it is always there.
Näthan:And in a way, it is always available. But what happens? It gets siloed into an episode that we had, and and it's not by by far the majority of the time. It's the rare exception that we have these moments, and we think that that Peak performance. Yeah.
Näthan:The peak but peak peak performance is the is the is like the the meaning of life in a way. Know? Peak performance meaning not that you're performing for somebody, but it means you're you're sustaining that zone consciousness. And of course you of course, like surfing a wave, you might fucking get wiped out, you know, and then and you have to get back on the board. But, know, so it's not like about, like, being some kind of perfect ideal here that we're talking about.
Näthan:What we're talking about though is if we're gonna stay in
Speaker 3:the
Näthan:zone, which is our birthright, to stay in a place of well-being, you know, especially in this day and age where there's so many things coming at us that threaten our well-being, even if not there's no immediate threat, even just living in fear and living in anxiety is an affront to our well-being. We need more than ever to not come from a place of panic, fear, anxiety, and all these things. We need to be in the zone more than ever, and we're not able to sustain that because what we're daring to say is you can't sustain it if you don't address what's causing the trance that we're in. If we don't have the code education, if we can't step back and and and have just the basic literacy and understanding what we're what we're saying here, then we can't sustain it. It's like what we're saying is that you need the source science in order to stay in the zone because this is beyond opinion.
Näthan:This is beyond us saying like, hey. Just trust us, guys. Trust us. You know? We're we're saying trust the wisdom of the planet, which is now being distilled into a way that you can understand in any context, in any in any worldview.
Näthan:They're all being joined together. They all come from a common source, a common science. And without being aware of that, we can't stay in the zone. We can't stay in our happiness and in our bliss.
Speaker 3:Well said, Nath. Because we do have those, and and our beautiful artists and creative singers, songwriters, and performers, and dancers, and athletes, you you know, and and mathematicians, and scientists touch into the source voltage. Because this symbolism here just reduces this whole hologram into one point. Here am I, and here am I. I'm being held by the source.
Speaker 3:Here it is. And it's the infinite force that's holding me. And the the the fact that what you said is when you have a weak moment, you're somehow able to break out of this space. Let's put it in red where it is, where it belongs. We're able to step back from this, and and we're there already.
Speaker 3:Voila. We're always there. We're always there. Mhmm. So people say, god is with you or Christ is with you or the infinite is in you or
Näthan:in Kingdom of heaven is at hand. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah. The heaven is at hand. It's right here. Right? And and what you just said is that the evidence the per person will say, how come if if I'm cut off from source, how can I have high moments?
Speaker 3:How can I have inspiration? How can I have when a light bulb goes on and I have a moment of enlightenment? Right? I I got I I I saw into electricity. I got e equals m c squared.
Speaker 3:Right? I I Like you do. What? I I was what's that? I said like you do.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Exactly. You're explain. Right? Because we we're always being held, and that's our nature to be in the but but here's the point.
Speaker 3:This software is so powerful, inscribed from birth and learning the language in our being for all of our experience and life and emotions and feelings and all of that, that when we have those peak moments, we it clams shut again. We get back. That's why we said something happened when I was running. I was running. That's running here.
Speaker 3:But then I I come back to the dining center, and what was that about? Or I come off the basketball court, or I come away from the soccer, or or or the chess, or or the mathematical research I was doing, and I realized I was taken over by yourself. That's good. What you're saying is that we have that here, it's not automatic and easy to become a veteran, a virtuoso of of being in the zone. Mhmm.
Speaker 3:You have to earn the right to be a zoner, and it's not just in Arizona. You know? It's it's it's everywhere. You're right. We're always in sacred space.
Speaker 3:So wherever we are, if we realize, oh, damn. This is infinite sources right in me. Infinite presence. It's not stuff. When people say the universe is a living energy presence, you can call it god or allah energy or yoga energy or Brahman or Buddha nature, whatever name you use for it.
Speaker 3:It's true. It's in every cell of our bodies, inside, outside, all around us here. It's right here. It's at hand. But something is going on that is really blocking our mental operating process.
Näthan:We're asleep at the wheel in a way.
Speaker 3:We're asleep at the wheel. You know? It's dangerous. And you don't want auto driving. You know?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Even though you're getting it. This is robotic. This is an AI form. It's not organic.
Speaker 3:So here's what I'd like to share with you now. We know now in the critique of culture that even science is being seen as having an ideology. It's got a lens. It's got a paradigm. It's changing.
Speaker 3:It's beautiful. Southern method is fantastic. Right? For example, let's say if we say, okay. I don't have religion.
Speaker 3:I don't I don't believe in God. I'm an atheist, whatever, but at least we have science. No. Science is relative to your lens. It's relative.
Speaker 3:It's a relative truth. It's not fundamental truth. And the great teachers knew that when Jesus is saying, I am the truth, allegedly, whether he actually said it or not, when the scripture the gospels are not here. The gospels are trying to get us here into the word, of source, into the logos. Jesus is the logos speaking.
Speaker 3:What language is that? It's not Arabic. Mhmm. It's Arabic. Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Right? So so the words here, great as it is to have language and meaning and feelings and emotions and literature and poetry and all of that, which can be inspired and is inspired. Still, until we face the profound force of the source of our evolution that we're branded within it, this deep addiction into the very language we have, the grammar that we learn. All of the human languages, as diverse as they are beautifully, human language is diverse linguistically, but they have a deep code, a logic, a logos, right, that they're all using, and that's a software. That's malware.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Because if you take it as absolute namely, if you take it, this is it, and you don't see you couldn't have that without this, So this comes from that. When you see that, the beginning to get the wisdom. Mhmm. Get the science.
Speaker 3:Get the knowledge. Your cognition. Get the ethics. Ethics here is not ethics. When you're in the golden rule, you're living it.
Speaker 3:You're breathing. You're in the dharma. You're in the ethics. You're in love. Love here.
Speaker 3:Love here is objectified. You don't objectify yourself or your lover. You don't objectify your children. Children are sacred. So does it so the point I'm making is that we have to recognize that it's stunning of us.
Speaker 3:It's outrageous that you and I are sharing this. Listen to the great first responders because they're opening up a pathway to science. It's called first philosophy. First philosophy got sidetracked and derailed. Buddha is the first philosopher.
Speaker 3:The Vedic science of yoga is a is a first first philosophy. Moses at the burning bush, Judaic wisdom's first philosophy. Jesus at the burning bush, first philosophy. These are first responders. All the great philosophers in Europe are trying to get there.
Speaker 3:They've got meditation on first philosophies. That's science. And what happened along the way over the centuries, primary science, we got sidetracked with empirical science. Check out the experience. Look at you do the experiment, get the feedback, revise your theory, and all of that.
Speaker 3:So, oh, that's great. We got science. Those science is derivative from primary science.
Näthan:Mhmm. Yeah.
Speaker 3:This is where you have truth. Even though you have relative truth relative to your lens and to your paradigm and your ideology. This is deeper than ideology. And we're in crisis of truth now. People say, where is the truth?
Speaker 3:It's all relative. We're in the post truth world and society. No. There is truth. And that's why recognizing trance is key to our human survival.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Because this is very dangerous where we are.
Näthan:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it.
Speaker 3:The virus the virus has gotten so burning, a fever pitch, that the human culture is showing it all around the planet right now. Yeah. All around planet. And and and so we don't have the luxury of just, yeah, let's wait another thousand years. Yeah.
Speaker 3:We've two thousand years. No. There's no more time.
Näthan:No. There's no more time. That's why that's why we're doing what we're doing, you know, with with Under medical urgency.
Speaker 3:This is medicine. Source medicine. And we're doing Sourcecast, not podcasts, not Lego cats. This is Lego pieces, but this is logos. So we're doing Sourcecast to try and open up the good news here.
Speaker 3:It's good news. You don't have to be here. You can magically solve the problem by courageously, not just short circuiting and say, oh, the wisdom is in me, so I don't have to do the work. It takes profound work to check out and mind your minding and make the crossing. It takes courage to do that.
Speaker 3:That's what we're insisting.
Näthan:Yes, yes, exactly. And we probably have to wind down now. So I really keep feeling like I want to make sure that those of you listening to this, whether you're involved in certain healing practices or spiritual practices as a practitioner or as a guide, as a teacher, I just wanna be very, very clear. We're not putting down any of those approaches. We're saying that oh, just like science is I I thank god, for example, that I can go to the dentist and, you know, fix a cavity instead of have to rip my tooth out or or whatever, you know, or that we have all these scientific advancements and all that.
Näthan:It's not it's not this is not a put down any of it. What we're saying is that, meanwhile, the ship's going down, and and we are all in a way, we're gasping for the zone. We're gasping for the for air, and we we're not we're not able to get out of this worsening plight of humanity by continuing to try and get better within the trance. And that's what we're calling out. So all of the gifts that people are bringing, that we're all bringing, keep them going.
Näthan:Keep teaching. Keep guiding, but bring in the code awareness. Remember that that we can't we can't just stay in the cave and keep lighting another candle. We gotta get out of the cave. We can't keep on staying on the Titanic and and using a bucket to try to fight the water flooding in.
Näthan:We've got to get off the Titanic and onto Nowhere's Arc, we like to call it. K n o w. Yeah, K n o w w e r. I just wanted to say I just
Speaker 3:I wanna that out my computer. Point. We're not saying that if you're doing yoga, that bad, bad. No. Do the yoga.
Speaker 3:Ask the yoga teacher or whatever. Are we facing the the code, the software that these two weirdos are talking about? And that's blocking us from getting into the zone, into the om. Are we in the om? How do we go from here?
Speaker 3:Are you coaching me there? If you're a Christian and you believe in God and the beauty of Christ and sacrifice of Jesus, is your teaching, whether you're a Quaker or Christian or Catholic, whatever it is, being shown how to have real communion and going into the Christ space. The Christ speaking is an office of the the the logos, a model for being human. Are we doing that? Are we ask the question, is Jesus here?
Speaker 3:Is this my lord, or is Jesus the global power of the light of logos shining for all humans? Is the Buddha here, or is the Buddha here? Is knowledge and science and scientific inquiry here, or is it here? Is love here objective actually, or is love deeper? Is the music I'm hearing, you know, pop music, whatever, the Beethoven's Night, or is it coming from the source?
Speaker 3:Can we be source artists? Beautiful. We love artists. We love the all the magnificent, inspiring work of all the great artists. It's not saying don't do it.
Speaker 3:Do it mindfully. Pop culture and pop celebrity and all of that is not worth anything if you're not getting the source music, the source lyrics, the source poetics, the source dancing. Are you dancing here or dancing here? Beautiful dancers, dance. Shiva dance into the zone.
Speaker 3:You you know? So we were encouraging people not to give up the beautiful, inspiring things that are happening. You're gonna do science. Ask, could I be doing deeper science? Could I have a deeper encounter with nature Mhmm.
Speaker 3:On the first kind of with the phenomena? And is there a deeper way to know and have truth than the way that we have here in the ideology and paradigm that we're lodge within and the software that we're using? So let's let's go deeper. That's what we're calling. Right?
Speaker 3:We're we're urging people to say it's not a shortcut. It does take courage. You've never been suggesting that all of these evidence went through trouble, and this is a tough one. It takes courage to to make them shit. And there's no way to bypass it or hack your way.
Speaker 3:Right.
Näthan:Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that that does it for today. Yeah. I mean, I feel like we could just keep on going, but we're make sure back now.
Speaker 3:We'll come back next
Näthan:Yeah. We're gonna keep we're gonna keep this going, guys. This is just gonna keep on coming and keep going deeper and deeper. Remember, we're 12 episodes in. You could jump into anyone at any point, or you could watch them from beginning to end, whereas some people I know are going from the end to the beginning.
Näthan:You know, they're that's a source cast is is is capable of being encountered from any angle. So but we invite you to stay with us and know that we are we are continually bringing new episodes every week. We we we shoot for getting them live Tuesday of every week, so just keep keep looking for that. And I'm so glad that you've joined us, and if you've stayed with us, thank you so much for staying with us. And If
Speaker 3:I may just add a little bit. Again, this is a calling out to all our human family. This is not where if we happen to be in America, we're not speaking to to Americans or the American situation. We're talking to the human family across the planet. Mhmm.
Speaker 3:And if anyone really across the planet happens to be listening in, if you'd like to get more of this education, the code education and the breakthrough to source science, tap in with Melvin. He's got a link there. He's a great coach, and he's a great yoga teacher, singer songwriter, musician. I say this, a great talent, and he's a brilliant life coach to help understand the shift. So there's a link to you can have tutorials with him.
Speaker 3:And I just want to encourage people. This is for everyone across the planet. Thank you.
Näthan:Yes, thank you so much. And yeah, like my dad just said, down below, we kind of give our description of the episode as we see it. But below that, there's a lot of vital links to our other material. You can go get to the podcast links, you can get to my website and book a session with me, you can hear the music I make or the videos my dad makes. So just wanted to just remind you that check out the description below if you're in the YouTube.
Näthan:And even in the in the podcast descriptions, sometimes you can easily get into all that too. But just wanted to point that out that there's a wealth of offerings that that are always available with each episode in the description. So thank you, guys.
Speaker 3:Thank you a lot. We've well done a lot. Thank you a
Näthan:Thank you. Yay.
Speaker 3:Was really fun.
Näthan:Alright. See you next time.
