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We're really actually, not related about building up performances and so forth, but this launching of the, you you know, the source cast, a new level of media and source media network, launching our network as we're we're wishing we're doing a while. This has been 4, 5 years planning this moment. This is a huge moment. Yeah. It is.
Ashok:But you said, you know, to each other as, as colleagues with great passion for, the greatest story ever told and, and what this means to break the trance, for all the people, for the human family in light of the great wisdom teachings and scriptures of, of the ages, with with all that passion, we're saying we need to do a weekly regular conversation, open space, and I'd like you to talk about that.
Näthan:Yes. Okay. So this is this is episode 1 of our new series that we're gonna be calling breaking the trance. And instead of the word podcast, we're using the term source cast, and that's something that we're coining to kinda differentiate from the the din of noise in the podcast world. And and that is, of course, connected to Source Media Network and and this network that we've created, which I'd like for you to speak on that, as well.
Näthan:But Source Media Network, was created and born about 4 no. 5 yeah. 4 years ago.
Ashok:4 years ago.
Näthan:Yeah. Yeah. In 2021. That's when we decided to create Source Media Network as a network that is honoring the source of media itself rather than buying into, you know, the all these media, outlets that we have that are available to everybody whether it's social media or video, you know, hosting and all that, and podcasts, stuff like that. We forget that what makes all of it possible.
Näthan:I think we just all kind of take it for granted. Yes. We're doing it. We humans created it. We're doing it.
Näthan:It's on our terms and everything just becomes a free for all of fire hose, of everybody's consciousness everywhere, all the time, all at once. And, and we wanted to stand stand apart from that in the sense that we're we're recognizing that that there's something that is sourcing all of it. Even though we're the ones we think we're taking credit for it. We're making we're inventing it. We're coding it.
Näthan:We're all this. But we're being we're being guided at a deep, deep level from that which sources all. Our our very heartbeat beat, our every breath, our every, iota of consciousness, and experience, and even the whole universe. You know, we forget that piece of it. And so it's like, we started to notice, it's like, you know, yeah.
Näthan:This technology is amazing and it's provided it's democratized publication in a way that would have been unthinkable even just a few decades ago. And it's amazing that people have that power and it's wonderful. But also, it's, it's become, just overrun by so much self seeking, kind of ego based just get it's all about us. It's all about us all the time and what we're trying to do for ourselves to get ourselves further our agendas and whatnot. And we felt that there needed to be a distinct network, a media outlet, so to speak, that could be everywhere on any of these these, hosts.
Näthan:But that stands apart, and that it's always holding the space of recognizing that source, which is infinite, is making all of this possible. And let's have a channel that can allow that voice to speak in myriad ways, in myriad, you know, modalities, and fonts. And we've been doing that for years. We've got shows such as, on my other YouTube channel, Human Up TV. We have, 1776 Now, our Unfinished American Revolution, which was a really major production that we did back in 2020, like, 2019 to 2021, really.
Näthan:And podcasts. I have my Human Up podcast. My dad has put out 28 meditations, amazing journey, into into philosophy and a logos code, which he's also recently picked up. Our first show that we're we're, putting out there on Source Media Networks new YouTube channel is, this new Gangadine's quest for the missing logos code 5 episode series so far. We've done that.
Näthan:We've done, Perfect Union podcast. I've done a yoga of yoga podcast. There's so much stuff that we've done, and it's been kind of in a way sort of scattered about. Source Media Network is we're gonna kinda bring it all together, and and and unumize it. That's our favorite words, unumize it from unum, the Latin unum for 1, to bring bring it together.
Näthan:So like another word for yoga. So we're we're that's kind of, you know, and we were already gearing up for that back in 2021, and we started with 3 episodes of the greatest story never told. The first episode of which was titled Breaking the Trans, which is the name of our this current show that we're starting up now. You could say that that 3 episode journey of Greatest Story Never Told was the was the, trailer for what we're doing now, starting 4 years later, almost 4 years later. We're picking it up now, after some really important, hiatus time that I personally needed and and, a lot of self work and and, things I needed to do, to get back to this point, which I'm very excited about.
Näthan:So so, yeah. So that's kinda like a little snapshot of what brings you into this moment, and now we're going into breaking the trance, which is a source cast as opposed to a podcast. A broadcast from source, from the from the source space. Or at least 2 2 guys 2 regular guys who are serving that call to put put source first and to to frame all of our myriad human, issues. And, all that we're we're we're trying to figure out now in that context, and in a global context, and in a in a long span of time context to really understand the importance of where we are right now.
Näthan:So it's a source cast. We're calling it the 1st source cast for Source Media Network. We're breaking the trance, and we're gonna dive into what exactly we mean by that. So those are some of my my opening thoughts, Pops.
Ashok:Well, beautifully said, Nava, you framed it nicely, and, this is inaugural, and we've anticipated launching this as a regular commitment at least once a week to start with and perhaps expanding even beyond that. So people can join us. And I you're speaking of source cast as tapping a deeper sore source. And the the hologram behind me, which is rather open and clear right now, which I've used, for decades in my teaching to help people understand the shift in code. Imagine, everyday code here in red, so to speak.
Ashok:And and the great teachers calling us to go deeper into the source of all life, the source of all, consciousness and experience and reason, the light of reason, whatever name we use, all the great scriptures, all the great first philosophers, and, men and women of the ages who are trying to make a crossing from a more derivative code, or maybe I'll go back a few pages, I'd only get it too messy, into a a deeper space. So source media, when we do this with our thinkers, if you you see here, imagine this code is where the human family has been, you know, driving in many ways and also perishing in the space because of the power of the of of tapping logos, the Greek word. But it's a it's a word now in this source context, source science for the source of all narratives, all worlds, all disciplines, all arts and sciences, all human experience is going on in this space and the need to cross into source. So we have media here as great and brilliant, and the world has been wired across the planet, which is brilliant. But the noise and and the it almost produce it at the flow of Google information and disinformation and misinformation and manipulation and hacking and all of that with the good good things.
Ashok:We need to open a deeper space where the great teachers and scriptures are speaking, inviting us to speak from the source. Nothing. When you do yoga, you you show that yoga here is not yoga. Yoga is crossing from the derivative code into the source code. So yoga is sourcing.
Ashok:If you say it's always Brahman, it's Vedanta, whatever, the Vedic science of yoga. It's not in the ordinary Google space. It's a source word. It's a deeper language, the language of logos. So, yes, that's that's source media was we're daring to say we need a deeper opening to media that opens up the space for the source.
Ashok:Because that journey from here, we're entranced and held by the code that we've developed and had developed us over millennia of evolution. It's now reached such a crisis point that we have no choice but to to evolve and go higher to a deeper form of literacy and language and experience and being human, being human here or here. So this is all important. This, source cast that we're launching now with all of the supplements and and pre logs and prologues and forwards that we've done, over the last several years and published. Nothing.
Ashok:You you itemize it beautifully. But but now, the the the we're opening up a fun space. We want just to build on what you said, Nalton. What's the source? It's an open space in the source of deep dialogue, not monologue, But deep dialogue flow where we meet in sacred ground.
Ashok:That's source cast. In in the logo, in the Sophia space, in the logo space, in the sacred space. We're daring to see. Let's hold deep sacred dialogue together. Everyone's welcome.
Ashok:It's not judgment. It's not making people feel badly if if we've been stalled and suffering and breakdown of all kinds of human dysfunctions in the lower level of of of thinking and processing and making ourselves and our worlds a different version, evolving version of ourselves as material rational beings, as a matrician species. We're not here to judge, you know, as Rumi beautifully said in one of his often quoted, there's a field beyond judgment of right and wrong. I'm in Jabir. Beautiful.
Ashok:But where's the their source? Who is source casting? Mhmm. Jesus is source casting. Buddha is source casting.
Ashok:Moses, the burning bush and bringing the laws that the source source lawing. You you know, and and, so so all the great first Socrates, leave the cave and come into the love of us to know thyself. You know, the great, beautiful Greek, origin of of wisdom, of the journey of rational beings, to know thyself. There's source casting. So if you think of it that way, Jesus, Buddha, Moses, Mohammed, you you know, the great scriptures, the great men and women of the ages, the great mystics who saw the truth is beyond what we've got.
Ashok:It's beyond our words. They didn't know how to get the language power attached to it. That's the technology that opened up in this hologram. Something has happened in my journey over 60 years in trying to listen to the great wisdom teachers and scriptures, living with them, and teaching them and their texts and their teachings for decades and seeing we've got to reopen up a code shift from a lower code. Mark it up.
Ashok:It wasn't there before. Something new has happened. Mhmm. And it's exciting. And as you say, it's great news.
Ashok:It's great news because what all the great first teachers in scriptures dreamt of and medically urge is we can end the suffering and dysfunction by suffering as a more closure here and journey, even though it's challenging and scary into a deeper version of ourselves. Mhmm. And that's really what we hope to uncover is the a medical shift from a more derivative space, where the human family across the planet. And we're we're already speaking to everyone. And then now judgmental, we went in a fun way.
Ashok:We want to invite everyone in. Whatever your orientation, whatever your belief system, even if you're a skeptic or a cynic or whatever it is, and you hate locals and you hate God, everyone is welcome to join in because this is for everyone. Mhmm. We're trying to create a safe open space for everyone to join in our fun. It's playful.
Ashok:It's a needle. It's sport. When athletes are in the zone, in their peak moments, they know they're at peak. We want to have dialogue in the zone. That's source cast.
Ashok:That's source media. I hope Nava, am I speaking are you you follow what I'm getting?
Näthan:Yeah. Absolutely. You know, and it's and, to that point about it being not being judgmental, it's it's funny that when we get into this realm of people sharing with other people, what they purport to be, wisdom or self help or what have you or I've got something that I'm gonna teach you or show you. And, it's often laden with, you know, you're doing it wrong and and you need to be more spiritual or you need to be more this and more that. And so we're not coming from that place at all.
Näthan:But, however, when we realize that when we denormalize the fact that we are actually suffering deeply, and the denormalize is a very important word because it when it's normalized, that's almost like the worst thing about human suffering is we we stop we we almost get, anesthetized to the fact that we're that we're suffering and that we're hurting, and then we function from that place. And this is part of the trans, the trans effect that we're gonna be addressing. But, you know, when you think of it like this, like, you know, we're in a we're in a day and age where more perhaps more so than ever where we're in a kind of postmodern relativist. Everybody's got their own opinion. Nobody has any higher truth.
Näthan:There's, you know, if you're if you it's totally cool. Whatever you wanna believe in, have at it, but, you know, don't don't you dare put anything on me. And and so so almost like, people think of that as a very enlightened way to be. Is it like there's like no. It's just to everybody gets to choose their reality off of a menu.
Näthan:And There is no unifying truth or there is no there is no something higher that we are all accountable to. But when we look at all the wisdom teachings across the planet, we take take away the religious aspect of it. What what ended up panning out from these teachings in terms of dogma and rituals and traditions and stuff like that. But if you just take the purity of the teachings across the globe, they're all calling us to to rise above the suffering. They're they're all in a way, they're like doctors.
Näthan:Okay? And and I love that analogy because, like, if a doctor comes in after he takes your blood and says, look, you know, we've got a problem with your blood levels. You know, we gotta really get your iron up. Your iron's low. It would be silly to sit there as a patient and go like, you're being judgmental to the doctor.
Näthan:I mean, come on. It's just like it's like the doctor's helping you. Right? So we don't do that in that context. We go thank you thank you for helping me find out what's wrong with me, you know.
Näthan:But we we seem to at least in my view, it seems to be like never less on our radar than it is now to to to see and address our suffering at the deepest levels and and understand that it's not about these great wisdom teachers weren't they're not religions. It's science. It's a deeper kind of science.
Ashok:Source science. Yes.
Näthan:Source science. Source science. And and so what's so powerful about your work, dad, which, you know, I always give the the little anecdote of my my journey of resistance for many years, you know, because just because you're my dad doesn't mean I was, like, listening to you. You know?
Ashok:You didn't, you didn't.
Näthan:Okay. I mean, I was soaking it in. You know, we grew up reading different scriptures and I I knew I was aware that that was special and and and, really gave me profound awareness and there was there was attention being paid to the spiritual. But when I by the time I left home when I was 18 years old, I just really kind of filed all of it away and all the philosophers and what you were doing and, you know, it's just sort of not not getting not making the mark. Whereas, where I was going, you know, in Sedona, in this, like, new age mecca where everybody was talking about aliens and crystals and angels and psychic readings, which is all great by the way.
Näthan:It's all fine. But I was in a mode of kind of like sort of rejecting source science. What what what we're calling source science now. And I needed to and it was it was healthy for me. I needed to, you know, go find tool around out there and try every single thing from Sunday to try to get to what I really really wanted which was my higher self, my source self, my true being, my true nature, which is what we all really want.
Näthan:And we're disconnected from that and that's the suffering. Well, after a number of years it was it was in the lab of life trying everything under the sun and hitting that dead end again and again and again. Because every time I was barking up the wrong tree, I was missing the point, and I was buying into sort of the the sugar high that that a lot of gurus and teachers and teachings are offering us is a sugar high means. It's like, oh, this is it. And then we follow it, and we do it as whatever.
Näthan:It's breath work. It's, you know, yoga. It's meditation. It's power of now. Whatever it is.
Ashok:You know?
Näthan:And we get on the sugar high, and we go. And then lo and behold, you kinda find yourself still in the same place over and over and over and over, and then you gotta find another sugar high. And that's kinda how that's, like, the state of the art right now, and there's plenty of people willing to fill that gap as teachers, gurus, all that stuff.
Ashok:And we wanna Life coaches. Yes. That's right.
Näthan:Yeah. We wanna we wanna interrupt that and say, look. This is not about us. This is not about you, Ashok, Dan, me, nothing, trying to make a name for ourselves and elbow our way into the scene. This is like, no.
Näthan:This is a this is a sanctuary outside of that where we can bring in in a global unified understanding the wisdom that's been coming through the planet for ages. And it's all been siloed and it's all been separated due to the trance that we're we're breaking or purporting to break here. The the everything's been siloed and disconnected and therefore rendered inert and innocuous. And we can't we can't seem to get past that that postmodern, well, everybody's just opinions and so I'll just choose your path on a menu. We're we're we're bringing it together in the space, and that's the source of science.
Näthan:And that source of science is is infinitely applicable to all human beings, all rational beings. And even go beyond saying just human beings. Any rational being will need to understand this this code shift that we keep we keep speaking of. And it's not just some esoteric idea, like, for philosophers. This has to do with every single moment of your life and every area of your life.
Näthan:Parenting, love life, career, you know, your civic life, all of the different aspects of your human journey has to do with this break breaking trans, this code shift that we're speaking of. So I just wanted to say that point where it's not a judgmental space, but we are, approaching it like doctors, if you will. What's really going on? What's really plaguing us? And let's see if we can we can heal this and rise above it.
Ashok:Well said. And, I, as a teacher for 57 years, I'd have a good call. They're teaching brilliant young students. They come in. I mean, that's when you took off on your journey.
Ashok:To be a critical thinker, you want every human as a philosopher. First philosophy is getting to what's first, the the ground floor that there is a source for all of our possibilities. That's an infinite space. It took it took me decades to get this hologram clarified to see that there is a derivative codes powerful Google space, And then there's a crossing of all the great, first teachers and scriptures seeking creatively even though you pointed out that they're put in silos. Buddha is over here.
Ashok:Yoga is over here. Mohammed is over there. Moses is over here. There is no Christ, and there is science. That's a silo.
Ashok:This is a silo maker. The the technology of how we use our consciousness objectifying and looking at contents, ASA, everything has its ID. That's really what's been dominating. This you can call it Google space. We've been living in Google space.
Ashok:And and this marker was not there to make hear that, wait a minute. Our life is going on here, our language, our reason, our feelings, our emotions, our human relations, our politics, our religion. Everything is under the sway of of a transcendental hidden code, so to speak. Software is a software. We didn't see the software that's shaping the game.
Ashok:And that Buddha, for example, in breaking the barrier, the trans of being immersed and located under and within the bounds of the software. So that this produces fragmentation and polarization and objectification and generates profound disorders in the human condition. That's the source of of of human dysfunctions. And ontology, the science of being, ontos from the Greek, being. Ontology, the science of being.
Ashok:First science. Right? The the level of science, which is what we call source science, is medical ontology. Yeah. You call it right?
Ashok:Nothing. It's medicine. If a physician sees Moses is bringing, the the physician's vision of Yahweh. Jesus is logos in the flesh speaking as a healer to to to end this alienation and bring people to the Christ life, the Christology. Krishna is coaching Arjuna, the broken warrior on the battlefield, which is broken down because of the soft grip to rise in the yoga technology.
Ashok:Oh, no. Socrates, leave the cave and come into the rational life. This is who you are. This is the real self. That's medical ontology.
Ashok:So source science, the science which is why is source science? Because it's the infinite. So what? It's infinitely 1, which means what? And that's what this means.
Ashok:The symbolism, this hologram. Nothing can be outside of being. You said all rational beings and Kant, for example, said not just human rational beings. If there were alien beings in the universe, they would still be under logos. All rational beings.
Ashok:And that's a great gift. As you say, it's a resource that we can manipulate and misuse if we don't, become critical thinkers and minded. So your journey, being as your dad, I said to you when you say I'm leading college, I said, good. Go west and find your way. And you tried all kinds of different modes of trying to find yourself.
Ashok:Your music was coming through. Your yoga teaching, as you got certified as a yoga teacher, even though it was your member. You start to teach yoga and say, this is not yoga. This is yoga. And to to bring music from the source, your lyrics, and your voice, and your song, you were a source casting in your music.
Ashok:I saw it was a I I marveled at at your your gifts as being a spontaneous saucer. And it was only years later now that we're colleagues and partners
Näthan:Yeah.
Ashok:Inquiring, so to speak. But it's it's medicine. And if if if the physicians of the ages, the great visionaries and first responders to the call of being, a reality of logos, of source, we're prescribing and diagnosing. This is not good. Well, people are in a trance.
Ashok:We're addicted to software, and we make our lives here and it's normalized. So breaking the trance, which is the title of this spot, is how do we go from being immersed and situated here to become aware to say, wow, check out the software. Why didn't we see that? And that we have a choice. The action of choice, Buddha.
Ashok:Existence is suffering. It's how we're using our minds. We make a reality with how the the mind operating process. We have a choice. That was the 3rd noble truth at the action of choice.
Ashok:You can choose to stay here or you can choose to upgrade to a deeper that's what the this marker means. It's a deeper language, a deeper logic. It's getting to the source science. And this is where we blossom as human beings, individually and as a species. So I think the way you said it is that we want critical thinkers.
Ashok:Critical thinking in here. Okay. Good. Be a critical thinker. But if you can't mind your minding in a deeper way and realistic, this level of rationality is derivative.
Ashok:It's not getting to the source of reason. You've gotta get into the logos. So this crossing, that's what us our source cast. It's not media here. We're trying to open up media here, and it's medical media because we just want them a fun, playful, joyous way because this is the greatest news that the greatest story never told is this story.
Näthan:Yeah.
Ashok:And we wanna share joyously. And this is when you're in the zone where spontaneous. Mhmm. We don't have pre fabricated topics. Any topic can come up for us in a week.
Ashok:You talk about parenting and the right? Or suicidal ideation. The genocide, racism, holocaust, ethnic cleansing, the meltdown of democracy, the degradation of the environment, global warming. Any topic is going to be understood as a code effect. And it's vital now with source science, the medicine of source medic to call it out and break the trance and help open up the space for humans to migrate.
Ashok:We're all immigrants here. We're immigrants waiting to, right, to to get get become citizens Mhmm. Of that space. And we're gonna have fun with this. We don't wanna judge.
Ashok:We want everyone, all humans are under the sway of of logos.
Näthan:And you'll notice at the top there that you've written, unum pluribus, you know, and you're talking about, you know, we're we're all cross we're crossing into that space to become citizens, but the of that of that space, but it's not just be clear that that it's not a space where we're all of the same. We're all the same. That's it. The the pluribus part of unum pluribus as in each Develop that.
Ashok:That's very important because people are scared. If there's an infinite unity, I'm gonna be meltdown and it's not gonna be mush. Right. It's not. The opposite.
Ashok:The opposite. You become the you become who you really are and everyone in the infinite space are infinite. Every snowflake is unique.
Näthan:It's actually the red space. It's the red space that kills diversity and Exactly. And it kills unity too.
Ashok:That's right. Exactly. This form of unity is divisive. Yeah. They're diverse.
Ashok:So if you say the United States of America, don't be frightened if you realize that there are more than one USA. It's divided and we're divided states. Mhmm. Right? Because you think United Nations.
Ashok:Unity here is not alone. Yes.
Näthan:And
Ashok:the mantra of America, we're not just talking to Americans. We're talking to all human beings here. Right? The infinite unifying force cannot be busted. It can't fragment it.
Ashok:It's infinite unum, which means it's infinite pluribus. This this was to be my journey now with one of the greatest breakthroughs to realize, wait a minute. We tend to think of unity before diversity. Diversity does what? Plurality, multiplicity, many.
Ashok:No. The infinite has boundless diversity. Every point in this open frontier is a unique point. You might think of, let's say, 8,000,000,000 or more people. Every point is a unique, your beautiful PowerPoint of the entire field.
Ashok:The practical logic here is not the same as a flat line, flat line, linear logic, binary logic here. Binary logic here is a stage. Living by a is a, producing either a or not a. S is either p or not p. The least to a, dividing, but polarizing, objectifying.
Ashok:And if you objectify yourself or others, don't be surprised if you see all kinds of disorders of objectification.
Näthan:Yeah. On all levels. On all levels.
Ashok:Misogyny, mythology, fear of loss. Right? Xenophilia. I call it xenophobia. Xenophobia or xenophobia.
Ashok:Right? Yeah. Let's have fun.
Näthan:Yeah. So, on that on that note, you know, we're we're trying to keep our our episodes around 40 ish minutes, and we're already believe it or not, we're coming up on the about 10 minutes left, Mark. And I wanna just make sure we're we're obviously excited. We can this is kind of the point. Like, we can kinda go on any any subject, any point, any time.
Näthan:But, today being sort of the intro, like, welcome to Source Media Network. Welcome to, breaking the trans source cast. I really wanna just talk because the the word it's it's it's very important that this is the title that we chose for whatever we're gonna do. It has Breaking the trance. It has something to do with breaking the trance.
Näthan:Why? Because the trance is all pervasive. It's everywhere. It's in every anywhere your mind is, you've got your software. Anywhere the software is, you're in a you're in that you're in that trance.
Näthan:And the and the reason we call it a trance is when someone's in a trance, by definition, they don't know they're in a trance necessarily. They're they're they're they need to be woken up out of the trance. So, oh, where where where where was I? You know? So we're using that word trance in the deepest possible sense because all of humanity is in a trance, which is actually not freedom.
Näthan:It's not we're not free. The trance is another word for samsara, the suffering of the human species. And and when we it's easy to point at all the symptoms of it, you know, destruction of the environment or violence and war. It's easy to point at the symptoms but they're all symptoms of the trance. And the the if we don't break the trance, all of these problems, we're gonna keep on it's like putting out trying to put out fires over here and then another one pops up over there and you're trying to put out fires over there.
Näthan:You know, it's and it's and more and more fires are popping up and we're we're trying to we're trying to quell things on the symptom level in our culture and the whole the whole enchilada, the whole thing is being generated at a deeper level of consciousness that actually transcends all languages and cultures. It's it's it's embedded in all of the cultures. Even if our grammars are are different in our languages, in our words, in our letters, and, how we think and our way of being in culture can be wildly different. They're all under the sway of the deep the deep trance that's got us in that kind of, we don't even know that we're we're in a zombie mode relative to our true self, our true nature individually and collectively. And so this is this breaking the trance for me, and I'd like to hear your thoughts on this too, that, for for me breaking the trance means that we are we're snapping out of it, we're we're stepping back and denormalizing what we have normalized, which is the suffering, which is being caused by there is a science behind the suffering, and it is universal, and it's infinitely applicable to every single area of life that's being governed by human consciousness or or encountered with human consciousness is going to be in some way shape or form subject to this deep code that's keep that's got us captive captive in a way.
Näthan:And so this this, source cast and any of the stuff that we've done really, but this one is really focusing on is to pulling that out and breaking the trans means, woah, seeing seeing, you're seeing, minding your minding, not just staying in the box and being mindful. No. That's not mindful. You gotta mind the box. You gotta get out of that box.
Näthan:You gotta get out of the trance. And there's a science, and it makes everything in life better. Everything in life improves when we're not out there trying to manipulate it, which is in that in that single bracket space. But when when we step back and realize, god, we were we are putting the you know, they say the cart before the horse. I like to say the cart before the source, you know.
Näthan:And when we when we do Oh,
Ashok:yeah. Yeah.
Näthan:We're never we're never gonna break the trance. So we we entrench ourselves in the trance. We reiterate the trance. We keep strengthening our our, being embedded within it. And so, this is the big interrupter.
Näthan:Breaking the trance is a big interruption which we are daring to say that this is what we're doing and that's what we're what we're sharing here and inviting you into in a non judgmental wide open heart mind space for all beings of all experiences. But to realize this is really exciting. Breaking the trance is the most exciting thing ever because it finally we can we can get out of the the the chains, the the slavery, so to speak, with a capital s. So, yeah, that's I just wanted to make sure I got that in before we before we wrapped up today.
Ashok:No. We're very welcome. You speak powerfully and beautifully. I love your lyrics. So that that what you hit on just to echo some of what you're saying and to build on this a bit.
Ashok:The the great first responders who are being called always by all under the sway. No. All life here is still always being held, funded, and called. That's what, you know, this this arrow, you can't this could not be without that. That's not clear in the hologram.
Ashok:And so the great first responders through the ages were realizing even though they didn't have the code notation to clarify, make they'll say, stop being objectifying or let go of the ego or, don't let make yourself into an entity or that all of these internal diagnostic. But to say, check out the software. It was hard to see that by our great teachers. And the great teachers, whether it's Moses, Jesus, Buddha, or Mohammed, they're trying to take this language of source and and and speak to everyday people who are in the suffering. Sin, Sarah.
Ashok:Sin or sin, from this point of view, is being cut off from the source. Samsara is being cut off in a cycle that perpetuates itself. So what you're saying is, what's this trance? It's a an addiction to a powerful software. When you said, earlier in this conversation, you are barking up the wrong tree, That was a very biblical thing.
Ashok:Because in Adam and Eve, the the the the the advice of God to Adam and Eve is don't eat of the tree of Google information. Eat of the tree of wisdom. And you were barking up the wrong tree.
Näthan:Yeah. And you
Ashok:had to to cross a bear as a yoga teacher and as musician, as an artist to get to the source. So we are as we mind. That's one of the axioms that comes out in suicides. We are our life, our experience, our emotions, our feelings, everything about our cultures, our politics, is a function of how we mind the software. And if we don't see that software is a temporary is is evolved and it's amazing to tap the power of logos and tame it on our terms, by our wills and our votes and what we want.
Ashok:Right? It's very compelling if you get addicted. Buddhist circles of addiction. Right? How do you break an addiction?
Ashok:You have to break the trance. What does that become a critical thinker to mind your minding? So that's headlines across the planet for 25 100 years. We are as we mind. And to put it in in contemporary terms, the software that we're embedded within governs our whole life and experience and facts and meaning and truth and science and arts and everything.
Ashok:Even though we couldn't be without this, when an artist has a great breakthrough when she's in the zone, you know, and brings it through. When a genius sees into a deeper laws of nature, a Newton, an Einstein equals it. They're tapping a space time continuum. All we see yeah. All the great gifts of political geniuses, our heroes, and what we're always being tapped and called by the source.
Ashok:Well, we wanna take the credit. Yeah. You know? That's it. That's the arrogance.
Ashok:The the the humility you're talking about. Yeah. You get humble. So when you said you began to get humble, which is what so wait a minute. I'm not running the show.
Ashok:Something else deeper goes on. And so when you began your critical turn to enter into what you were doing already as a young person in your music, you're bringing music through. Amazing lyrics. And your yoga teacher, you saw that yoga is not here. Yoga is here.
Ashok:Read the Bhagavad Gita. Listen to Lord Krishna. He's making it clear. Yoga is here, not you. So, yes, it it it is really 25 years of human history and evolution by the great force figures.
Ashok:They were put in silos by this. This is a silo maker. So you put Jesus over here. You put Vedanta and yoga over there. You put science over here.
Ashok:You put, you you know, Mohammed over there. You put, Moses over there, and you have silos. And when you silo, you silence. Because when you break, this narrative off from its source, you lose the voltage and power and meaning and truth force of our great teachers. Mhmm.
Ashok:And that's what we're celebrating. So again, if if anyone, you know, listening has been in the zone, have a great moment of peak performance, you know that you can't control the zone. You don't do the zone. You can't hack it. You allow yourself to be zoned.
Ashok:You go from here to here. You go from here to here. And you don't do that. You don't orchestrate. You don't vote on that.
Ashok:You allow it. And when you allow it, that's breaking the truth. And that's the greatest news of all. The greatest story number 2 of this this hologram story of of the of the missing code of logos, the code, to see if this is a derivative code or this is a source code, then we have source media. Can we tap the voice of Jesus?
Ashok:Can we tap the voice of Buddha? Can we tap the voice of Krishna? Can we listen to the logos speaking? Is is what this source cast seeks to be. And we're we're delighted.
Ashok:We're we're having fun. Because when you're in the zone, you're spontaneous. You don't predict. You don't control. You give up.
Ashok:We want to invite others to dance with us. And the Shiva dance of the source. Mhmm. So that's how I would just, you know, add to what you beautifully said now.
Näthan:Well, awesome. Good. I'm so excited. I'm so happy that we finally are kicking this this new journey off. It feels really timely.
Näthan:I had moments where I felt like, you know, there was it was too long without having, you know, done done something, like this, you know, but I realized it just sometimes in at least in my life, and I'm sure it's probably pretty universal, you need some times to just, go on sabbatical, so to speak. You know? And so, it feels good to come back from sabbatical, and I'm really I'm feeling jazzed. I feel relaxed, and, ready to have fun and just explore whatever comes up. And I I almost want to invite, you know, any viewers here, you know, if if you have any, things you wanna talk about, you know, you could say, like, well, what do you what how does this apply to parenting?
Näthan:Or how does this apply to love and relationships? Or how does this apply to the the the scene of democracy versus autocracy or whatever, you know. So whatever things you wanna put in the comments, just feel free to drop some some thoughts. We'd love to hear your thoughts on what you're thinking, how you're receiving this, and anything that that inspire you, like, what you would like to to to dive into. And we'll we'll start, collecting those those suggestions and and keep we're gonna keep this show going.
Näthan:This is gonna be at least once a week.
Ashok:This is a commitment. We have at least once a week from now on. And every every episode will be recorded and archived, you know, and we'll you'll see the links, to where you go to find the archives and also to some of the recent productions that Nathan spoke about earlier. The 17/76 now, 9 episodes with this beautiful music of throughout all episodes trying to show how do you go from a derivative broken democracy to the demoxed with the people. For example, 17 76ers were tapping into the space, self evident truth.
Ashok:For example, or my reflections of the the the quest for discovering the lowest code, the missing code, the episodes on that. You'll see the links. Feel free to explore. There's so much background here waiting. But now we want to really, explore and jazz, weekly and and take up the the whatever topics come up spontaneously.
Ashok:And they're all vital to go from here to here.
Näthan:Yeah. Beautiful.
Ashok:Love that.
Näthan:And, as we say goodbye, I will I will second that. We'll put all the appropriate links down below. The our our individual channels, our websites, and anything pertinent. There'll also be a couple suggested videos at the end of this. And, you know, I I decided, this time around that I wasn't gonna sweat it too much about subscriptions and likes and all that kind of stuff.
Näthan:And I stand by that because I just wanna do this out of pure love and just getting this out to the world. Knowing that it does every every time you like or subscribe or share it, that it does inform YouTube to help spread it. Then in that spirit, if you feel inspired to stay in touch with us and to help, help get this out to the world, get more people in the source cast space with us, We really appreciate that. And, and One of the
Ashok:things you say, you know, I take to my students, which were now the contemporary generation is called Gen z, but we're saying now Gen z has to mature into Zen g, the Zen generation, all of all ages. Are really need to really make that shit. That's a playful way to save it. It's time for us to and so, another I just wanna echo what we said before, everyone around the planet, the whole human family. Right?
Ashok:We're unarmed. We're unimplurbous. Unity and diversity. Every human being is unique. And whatever nation, whatever religion, whatever orientation, whatever belief system, whatever it is, we invite you to join us.
Ashok:In a deep dialogue dance, everyone's welcome across the planet. We want the human family to find a way to come together across all our borders.
Näthan:Amen. Thank you, guys.
Ashok:Thank you. See you next time.
Näthan:See you next week.
